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Post by RobertWhy some ‘lose’ their salvation.
He has 'lose' their salvation in quotes, so I'm assuming he isn't
claiming people actually 'lose' their salvation.
Post by RobertAgain, these are excellent
understandings as to why one needs the baptism of the Holy Spirit, with the
seal or as it were the promissory note unto eternal life,
“In Him you also trusted,
You see that?
"In Him you trust," not in a theology claim—or any theology—of Christ's
death on the cross.
And there is the whole problem with sinner christianity, of which Robert
and ChristRose subscribe to.
In the Name of Jesus
after you heard the word of truth, the gospel
Post by Christ Roseof your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with
the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance
until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His
glory.” (Ephesians 1:13–14, NKJV)
Post by Robertfor all who walk in
the spirit and put to death the lusts of the flesh.
“There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ
Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the
Spirit.” (Romans 8:1, NKJV)
Post by RobertFor the believer has been
given all power over the enemy through Jesus The Christ.
Ephesians 6 tells believers how they should relate to spiritual forces.
It says nothing whatsoever about them having "all power" over the enemy.
Jesus has "all power" over the enemy (Matthew 28:18). Believers are
supposed to put on the armor of God and prayer, not try and directly
command the enemy what to do (Ephesians 6:10-18).
Charismatics are like the seven sons of Sceva, who tried to imitate the
“Now God worked unusual miracles by the hands of Paul, so that even
handkerchiefs or aprons were brought from his body to the sick, and the
diseases left them and the evil spirits went out of them. Then some of
the itinerant Jewish exorcists took it upon themselves to call the name
of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, saying, “We exorcise
you by the Jesus whom Paul preaches.” Also there were seven sons of
Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, who did so. And the evil spirit answered
and said, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you?” Then the man
in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, overpowered them, and
prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and
wounded.” (Acts 19:11–16, NKJV)
Charismatics try to confuse the signs and wonders which were temporarily
given to the apostles to validate the gospel message, with the every day
norm for today. The gospel has already been validated (Hebrews 2:3-4).
Anyone claiming to do signs and wonders or miracles today, is a liar who
mocks the Holy Spirit (https://christrose.news/ceased), and who seeks to
walk by carnal sight rather than faith in what the Bible says (John
20:24-31).
Now there will be some twisted liar who says 'God can still do
miracles!', as if to deny that signs and wonders are still happening
today means you're claiming God is no longer able to do the
supernatural. Twisted liars they are, who practice deceit. It's not that
God is no longer able to do the supernatural, it's that He has already
validated the gospel message (Hebrews 2:3-4), and now requires men to
walk by faith in what the eyewitness testimony in the Bible says (John
20:24-31).
When God operates in supernatural ways today, it's exactly that. It's
God operating in a supernatural way. It's not a sign or wonder to
validate the gospel message, as if it hasn't already been validated. The
sign and wonder gifts ceased by the end of Paul's ministry (https://
christrose.news/ceased), because the gospel had already been validated.
God may or may not chose to intervene in supernatural ways today, but
the sign gifts (e.g. miracles, tongues, healings, etc.) have ceased. You
don't find them in any list of Spiritual gifts after Galatians (e.g.
Ephesians 4; Peter, etc.).
Charismatics operate in denial of the fact God has already validated the
gospel, as if He has to keep on validating it for them personally, so
they don't have to operate by faith, but may instead walk by sight. Thus
they walk in carnality at best, and seek to get others to do the same.
They mock the Holy Spirit by trying to imitate the Apostles, without
actually having that power given to them. They are like the seven sons
of Sceva, who pretend to imitate the apostles, while they lack the power
of those gifts. They invite a good beating by spiritual forces.
Today, the believer is validated not by signs and wonders, but by the
fruit of love, obedience, confession of Christ, separation from the
world, etc. This is made clear in 1 John (one of the last epistles to be
written). Nothing after Galatians mentions anything at all about
believers doing or experiencing signs and wonders, or about those things
being evidence of saving faith in Christ. Hebrews shows that the second
generation believers did not have first-hand experience with signs and
wonders, but only with those performed by those who first saw the Lord
(2:3-4).
Post by RobertThe Parable of the Sower Explained
Mat 13:18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
Mat 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and
understandeth it
not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his
heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
Mat 13:20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he
that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
Mat 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when
tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is
offended.
Mat 13:22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the
word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the
word, and he becometh unfruitful.
Mat 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth
the word, and understandeth it;which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth,
some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
This, a solid, rock solid understanding given by the Lord Jesus, who also
stated,...
That is a citation of Scripture, not an "understanding" (interpretation)
of Scripture. Don't try to confuse whatever it is you think this means,
with an "understanding" of Scripture, as if to merely cite it proves
whatever it is you claim it means. Go ahead and propose your
"understanding".
Post by Robert“Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to
escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son
of man.” (Luk 21:36, KJV)
Idem.
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God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.
Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."
"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."
"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."
"Compromise will condemn you."
"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."
"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."
"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"
"The way of truth is the testimony of life."
"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."
"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."
"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."
"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."
"Priority is everything."
"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."
"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."
"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."
"Wait, rest, be still, and know."
"No man can wash his own hands!!!"
"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."
"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."
"Man is not the centre of being."
"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."
"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."
"Man has no greater idol than his own will."
"Where is God hiding? He isn't."
"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."
"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."
"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."
"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass
through it for a sinner to play God."
"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."
"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."
"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."
"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."
"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"
"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"
"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"
"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."
"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."
"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."
"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."
"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."
"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."
"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."
"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."
"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
"There is no such thing as random!"
"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."
"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."
"No sinner is sinless in any way."
"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."
"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."
"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."
"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."
"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."
"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."
"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."
"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."
"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."
"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."
"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."
"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to
speak?"
"It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
all for who He is."
"A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."
"The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass
as God."