"ONE"? It equals the Godhead. Which Jesus taught in the Gospels.

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Robert

2024-11-25 07:19:40 UTC

Nm) Dha% (Dha% A-HhD) - Unity: A group united are one of a group. [freq. 951]
|kjv: one, first, another, other, any, once, every, certain, an, some| {H259}

H259(Strong)

אֶחָד ‘echâd

ekh-awd’

A numeral from H258; properly united, that is, one; or (as an ordinal) first:
- a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any (-thing), apiece, a certain [dai-]
ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one,
only, other, some, together.
***************************************

United, altogether, alike, each one. Etc.

IOW’s the Godhead as the ancient Hebrew at the top of this list shows.

“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:” (Deu 6:4, KJV)

Jesus/Yeshua thought this in the Gospels.

Mat 26:38Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto
death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.

Mat 26:39And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed,
saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me:
nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

Mat 26:40And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith
unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?

Mat 26:41Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed
is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Mat 26:42He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father,
if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.

Jhn 8:54Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it ismy
Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

Jhn 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my
Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father,
andyour Father; and to my God, and yourGod.

Believe the Word of God, for it is revealed truth.

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2024-11-25 09:06:58 UTC

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Post by Robert
Nm) Dha% (Dha% A-HhD) - Unity: A group united are one of a group. [freq. 951]
|kjv: one, first, another, other, any, once, every, certain, an, some| {H259}
H259(Strong)
אֶחָד ‘echâd
ekh-awd’
- a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any (-thing), apiece, a certain [dai-]
ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one,
only, other, some, together.
***************************************
United, altogether, alike, each one. Etc.
IOW’s the Godhead as the ancient Hebrew at the top of this list shows.
“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:” (Deu 6:4, KJV)
Jesus/Yeshua thought this in the Gospels.
Mat 26:38Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto
death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
Mat 26:39And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed,
nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Mat 26:40And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith
unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?
Mat 26:41Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed
is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Mat 26:42He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father,
if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.
Jhn 8:54Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it ismy
Jhn 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my
Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father,
andyour Father; and to my God, and yourGod.
Believe the Word of God, for it is revealed truth.

_________________________________________________________

Jesus is the "I AM" God...~INCARNATE~. He
said, "before Abraham was, I AM!" John 8:58.

Jesus was 'GOD with us'.

"Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a
Son, and shall call His name Immanuel (which
means 'God with us'). ~Isaiah 7:14

Second person of the Trinity,*JESUS*.

"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall
bring forth a son, and they shall call his name
Emmanuel,which is, God with us."
~ Matthew 1:23

God the Father has commanded His creation to
*WORSHIP JESUS*

(Hebrews 1:6)

Since Satan hates Jesus, he will move upon those
he controls to disparage the idea of worshipping
Jesus.

Now I understand ~why~ Robert won't answer my
question to him.

"Do you *love* Jesus?"
and,
"Do you *worship* Him?"

However, to refuse to worship Jesus would be in
rebellion against the command of the living GOD!

And thus identify oneself to be in league with the
first great Rebel, who will be cast alive into the
Lake of Fire on the final Day (Revelation 20:10).

~Andrew

Robert

2024-11-25 19:07:26 UTC

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Post by Robert
Nm) Dha% (Dha% A-HhD) - Unity: A group united are one of a group. [freq. 951]

Post by Robert
kjv: one, first, another, other, any, once, every, certain, an, some|
{H259}

H259(Strong)
אֶחָד ‘echâd
ekh-awd’
- a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any (-thing), apiece, a certain [dai-]
ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one,
only, other, some, together.
***************************************
United, altogether, alike, each one. Etc.
IOW’s the Godhead as the ancient Hebrew at the top of this list shows.
“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:” (Deu 6:4, KJV)
Jesus/Yeshua thought this in the Gospels.
Mat 26:38Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto
death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
Mat 26:39And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed,
nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Mat 26:40And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith
unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?
Mat 26:41Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed
is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Mat 26:42He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father,
if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.
Jhn 8:54Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it ismy
Jhn 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my
Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father,
andyour Father; and to my God, and yourGod.
Believe the Word of God, for it is revealed truth.

_________________________________________________________
Jesus is the "I AM" God...~INCARNATE~. He
said, "before Abraham was, I AM!" John 8:58.

“Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was,
I am.” (Jhn 8:58, KJV)

Nowhere in that verse is the word ‘incarnate’ written, nor in any place
in the Bible is it or any variation of that word found. So how about a little
honesty and integrity?

Post by Andrew
Jesus was 'GOD with us'.

Still is.

Post by Andrew
"Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a
Son, and shall call His name Immanuel (which
means 'God with us'). ~Isaiah 7:14
Second person of the Trinity,*JESUS*.

There is no ’Trinity’ in the Bible either. Especially under the
understanding to the RCC.
Most people have not a clue of the origination and usage of the word, and its
pagan beginnings. They likewise shudder at the usage of that word when
applied to the trinity of spices, etc. or the trinity of the musketeers and
or the stooges. For each are three as one.

Post by Andrew
"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall
bring forth a son, and they shall call his name
Emmanuel,which is, God with us.” Matthew 1:23

Yes, that is true, although the spelling of the name was incorrect. Isa 7:14;
Isa 8:8; Isa 8:10, Immanuel. Also bear note to the verse in Isaiah that you
quoted, is clearly stated that the virgin will “conceive and bear” not
incarnate.

“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after
the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are
complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: In whom
also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting
off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:” (Col
2:8-11, KJV)

Post by Andrew
God the Father has commanded His creation to
*WORSHIP JESUS*
(Hebrews 1:6)

Again, sadly, I point out your error here for it says, “And again, when he
bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the
angels of God worship him.” (Heb 1:6, KJV)

'worship him.' Gr. proskuneō (S# G4352, Mat 2:2). Quoted from>Deu 32:43,
which in the Septuagint reads, "Rejoice, ye heavens, together with Him, and
let all the angels of God worship Him. Rejoice, ye nations, with His people,
etc."

Post by Andrew
Since Satan hates Jesus, he will move upon those
he controls to disparage the idea of worshipping
Jesus.
Now I understand ~why~ Robert won't answer my
question to him.
"Do you *love* Jesus?"
and,
"Do you *worship* Him?"
However, to refuse to worship Jesus would be in
rebellion against the command of the living GOD!
And thus identify oneself to be in league with the
first great Rebel, who will be cast alive into the
Lake of Fire on the final Day (Revelation 20:10).

Judging Others

Mat 7:1Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Mat 7:2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Mat 7:3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Mat 7:4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of
thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

Mat 7:5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then
shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
You were reminded of these scriptures before, and recently. Yet you see not.

“Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to
escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son
of man.” (Luk 21:36, KJV)

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Andrew

Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own
understanding.

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Pro 28:25He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth
his trust in the LORD shall be made fat.
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2024-11-26 01:20:17 UTC

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Mon, 25 Nov 2024 11:07:26 -0800
<vi2hte$2umm9$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:
========================================> “Jesus said unto them, Verily,
verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was,

Post by Robert
I am.” (Jhn 8:58, KJV)
Nowhere in that verse is the word ‘incarnate’ written, nor in any place
in the Bible is it or any variation of that word found. So how about a little
honesty and integrity?

These are your dumb, hypocritical word games.

• Neither the Bible nor Jesus used any of the English words you say when
you express what the Bible means.

• The question isn't if the Bible uses that word, but if that word (as
used today) accurately conveys what the Bible teaches. Otherwise, none
of your English translations can be considered a reliable indication of
what the Bible means.

• The Bible teaches that God became a man. That's what's meant by
incarnation today, and everyone who isn't a complete tool knows that.

• When you can't refute an accurate teaching, you go looking in the
dictionary till you find some definition of a word that can be
associated with evil, then you try to contaminate the use of that word
in all instances, based on the one bad definition you find.

• You do a similar thing when you try to tell people what a word means.
You look through a list of Thayer's Abridged senses for a word, and
think you get to pick which one you like, to the exclusion of all the
others, without any regard for the rules of grammar. What you didn't
understand was that Thayer's Unabridged shows which of those definitions
are associated with which voice, tense, and mood of the various passages
in which they are found. You are almost always wrong in the definition
you choose for words, based on the context of the usage. You pick
definitions which are indicated by other contexts, but not passage in
question.

Thus, you expose your complete ignorance and twisted deviation both in
how you try to disqualify words as being legitimate and in how you try
to promote definitions which are wrong. You promote a hypocritical and
idiotic contention over the meaning of words on a regular basis.
--
Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved.'" (Romans 10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation

In the Name of Jesus

2024-11-25 20:06:22 UTC

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_________________________________________________________
Jesus is the "I AM" God...~INCARNATE~. He
said, "before Abraham was, I AM!" John 8:58.
Jesus was 'GOD with us'.
"Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a
Son, and shall call His name Immanuel (which
means 'God with us').     ~Isaiah 7:14
Second person of the Trinity,*JESUS*.
"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall
bring forth a son, and they shall call his name
Emmanuel,which is, God with us."
                        ~ Matthew 1:23
God the Father has commanded His creation to
                   *WORSHIP JESUS*
(Hebrews 1:6)
Since Satan hates Jesus, he will move upon those
he controls to disparage the idea of worshipping
Jesus.
Now I understand ~why~ Robert won't answer my
question to him.
         "Do you *love* Jesus?"
and,
         "Do you *worship* Him?"

Yes and yes.

But it is really only one question, to love Him is to worship Him.

"My Lord and my God."

You can't if you don't know Him.

If you only have a bible, you love theology and yourself through it.
This Robert's and ChristRose's blindness and delusion.

In the Name of Jesus

Post by Andrew
However, to refuse to worship Jesus would be in
rebellion against the command of the living GOD!
And thus identify oneself to be in league with the
first great Rebel, who will be cast alive into the
Lake of Fire on the final Day (Revelation 20:10).
~Andrew

--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass
through it for a sinner to play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to
speak?"

"It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
all for who He is."

"A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

Christ Rose

2024-11-25 14:09:49 UTC

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Robert <***@no.way> wrote:
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Which means Robert thinks there are three separate God Beings, and that
they are only "one" God(head), in the sense of relational (rather than
ontological) unity.

No. There is only one God Being, and one divine essence, not three.
Three distinct persons. One God Being. But since Robert can't understand
how that can be, he decided to invent gods that he can understand and
explain.

1. "You are my witnesses," declares the LORD, "and my servant whom I
have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am
he. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me"
(Isaiah 43:10, ESV).

2. "I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no God; I
equip you, though you do not know me" (Isaiah 45:5, ESV).

3. "Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God,
and there is no other" (Isaiah 45:22, ESV).

4. "I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god"
(Isaiah 44:6, ESV).

5. "For thus says the LORD, who created the heavens (he is God!), who
formed the earth and made it (he established it; he did not create it
empty, he formed it to be inhabited!): 'I am the LORD, and there is no
other'" (Isaiah 45:18, ESV).

6. "Declare and present your case; let them take counsel together! Who
told this long ago? Who declared it of old? Was it not I, the LORD? And
there is no other god besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is
none besides me" (Isaiah 45:21, ESV).

7. "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill
and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver
out of my hand" (Deuteronomy 32:39, ESV).
--
Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved.'" (Romans 10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation