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Robert
2024-12-06 03:02:49 UTC
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Now, as it was then in regards to the religious folk Jesus the Christ speaks,
as they too make excuses, and turn a deaf ear unto His Words. Lest He Heal
them. Now, as then, they deceive themselves and wist not that the spirit of
God has departed from them. A contentious lot they are, without Love for the
brethren.

Listen up to what the Lord sayeth....

Mat 13:10-17 (KJV)

10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in
parables?

11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the
mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more
abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he
hath.

13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and
hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye
shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not
perceive:

15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and theirears are dull of hearing,
and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with
theireyes, and hear withtheirears, and should understand with theirheart, and
should be converted, and I should heal them.

16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

17For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous menhave desired
to seethose things which ye see, and have not seen them;and to hearthose
things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

“Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy
to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the
Son of man.†(Luk 21:36, KJV)

Cessationism is based upon the same disbelief as atheism.
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Christ Rose
2024-12-06 12:56:11 UTC
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Post by Robert
Now, as it was then in regards to the religious folk Jesus the Christ speaks,
as they too make excuses, and turn a deaf ear unto His Words. Lest He Heal
them. Now, as then, they deceive themselves and wist not that the spirit of
God has departed from them. A contentious lot they are, without Love for the
brethren.
Clue:

1) The Holy Spirit inspired the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek Scriptures,
not the King James version. Imitating the KJV doesn't lend credibility
to your claims, or put your words on par with Scripture.

2) Love chastens and rebukes those who sin (Revelation 3:19). You have
devoted your life to attacking, trying to undermine and trying to poison
people's minds against sound Bible doctrine, if it comes from the mouth
of anyone but yourself. This is not love for the truth or the promotion
of truth. Your actions betray the fact you have love of being recognized
as the only one who knows the truth. You are like the bitter, envying
Jews who tried to poison people's minds against the apostles and the
truth of the gospel, out of their own envy that they weren't getting the
attention the apostles did (see https://christrose.news/demonic-wisdom).
Post by Robert
Listen up to what the Lord sayeth....
The Lord speaketh not in KJV. The Spirit inspired the Hebrew, Aramaic,
and Greek Scriptures. Our copies are accurate to the degree they
correctly translate that into our language. Also, 1 Corinthians shows
that edification is the goal. That means people have to understand what
is being said. If they don't, the person speaking was supposed to shut
up (1 Corinthians 14:27-28). While the KJV is a great translation, it
hinders people today from understanding what the Bible means, unless
they devote themselves to understanding KJV language. So trying to
imitate the KJV is a cheap, false, and losery way to convey the
impression of being spiritual.
Post by Robert
Mat 13:10-17 (KJV)
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in
parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the
mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more
abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he
hath.
13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and
hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye
shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not
15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and theirears are dull of hearing,
and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with
theireyes, and hear withtheirears, and should understand with theirheart, and
should be converted, and I should heal them.
16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous menhave desired
to seethose things which ye see, and have not seen them;and to hearthose
things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
And we now walk by faith in what the Scripture says, not by carnal
sight, just as Jesus claimed (John 20:24-31):

“Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when
Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said to him, “We have seen the
Lord.” So he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the
nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand
into His side, I will not believe.” And after eight days His disciples
were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being
shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to
Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your
hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but
believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed.
Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” And truly
Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are
not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe
that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may
have life in His name.” (John 20:24–31, NKJV)
Post by Robert
“Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy
to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the
Son of man.†(Luk 21:36, KJV)
Go ahead and explain what you think that means. You won't.
Post by Robert
Cessationism is based upon the same disbelief as atheism.
Says the satanically manipulated liar. Charismatics are like the seven
sons of Sceva, trying to appropriate power that was never given to them
(see https://christrose.news/ceased). The evidence of the Holy Spirit
and salvation is love, the fruit of the Spirit, right living, separation
from the love of the world, etc. (1 John). You find no mention of signs,
wonders, miracles, etc. in any list of spiritual gifts after Galatians.
Hebrews 2:3-4 shows that the gospel had already been "confirmed" by the
time of the second generation believers, who had no first-hand
experience of the signs and wonders, other than what they knew of from
those who first saw the Lord.
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Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved.'" (Romans 10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation
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