Which Type of 'Christian' are You? - interlude- How to be successful

[Robert]

This morning, early on, the Lord spoke to me regarding all the previous
portions of this chapter in Matthew, and my speaking to why there are so many
‘christians’ that may not be successful, or as near successful in Jesus
The Christ, and as a consequence left behind for the tribulation, bitterness,
etc. or to be thrown out into outer darkness, but he said to remind everyone
that the various stages of seed being planted, uprooted, struggling, etc.
That he ended up these individual parables with how to be successful in Him.
Along with that, those who were frugal, cheap, and non=productive that he
would tae what they had and give it to those who were producing and He will
make them abundantly successful. A world without limits, full of power, able
to speak and share the truth, and do so abundantly.

Yes, oh YES people He seeks those who would serve him in all manner of things
in their life. He desires to gift you now greatly and later when all is said
and done HE WILL reward you greatly. Odd that, go figure, He gifts us, He
supports us, He EMPOWERS us By His Spirit, and then rewards us in the end for
all eternity. To me that is so unfathomable, for all we had to do was just to
sign on, and be willing to do as he desired. He gives us Life, and by giving
our life to HIS HANDS, He LOVES US! And because of that one cannot help but
Love Him back. It makes little sense in this world. Yes, we must bear our
cross, but even in doing so, He supports us, and gives us strength. And how
few know or understand what the Cross actually is. That is another subject
for another time,...

As the point is, Jesus in these parables not only was prophesying but
instructing us in how to be winners!

“Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to
escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son
of man.” (Luk 21:36, KJV)

[Christ Rose]

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Fri, 06 Dec 2024 19:19:11 -0800
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Robert <***@no.way> wrote:
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Post by Robert
This morning, early on, the Lord spoke to me

We'll see about that. If what you say is consistent wit God's word, maybe.

Post by Robert
regarding all the previous
portions of this chapter in Matthew, and my speaking to why there are so many
‘christians’ that may not be successful,

--Depends on what you mean by "successful". Salvation isn't a business.
It's about God glorifying Himself by giving people saving faith in Jesus
Christ. The evidence of true regeneration and Holy Spirit filled living
is in the fruit of love, right living, sound doctrine, etc., not signs,
miracles, and wonders (https://christrose.news/ceased).

Post by Robert
or as near successful in Jesus
The Christ,

Idem. Mocking the Holy Spirit by pretending to do miracles or speak in
tongues is not being "successful". Jesus actually had the power and did
the miracles. Charismatics are frauds.

Post by Robert
and as a consequence left behind for the tribulation, bitterness,
etc.

Good fruit and good deeds are the evidence of saving faith, not a
condition by which one earns or achieves a spiritual benefit. You're
either elect or you're not. If you are, as I understand it, you will be
raptured prior to the tribulation (Matthew 25:31-36; Isaiah 65:20, 23;
Zechariah 8:4-5; 1 Corinthians 15:51-52; Revelation 20:7-9; John 14:1-3;
1 Timothy 3:16-18; Revelation 3:10; 4:1, 4), and your life will evidence
the fruit of the Spirit, right living, confession of Christ, etc. (1 John).

Post by Robert
or to be thrown out into outer darkness, but he said to remind everyone
that the various stages of seed being planted, uprooted, struggling, etc.

(--Run-on sentence that no longer makes sense.)

Post by Robert
That he ended up these individual parables with how to be successful in Him.
Along with that, those who were frugal, cheap, and non=productive that he
would tae what they had and give it to those who were producing and He will
make them abundantly successful. A world without limits, full of power, able
to speak and share the truth, and do so abundantly.

--Depends on what you mean by "without limits". Sign gifts were to
testify to unbelieving Israel and confirm the gospel message (Isaiah
28:11; John 20:30-31; 1 Corinthians 14:22). Hebrews 2:3-4 says the
gospel has already been "confirmed" by these signs and wonders. Second
generation believers were told to believe on the basis of the
eyewitnesses to the Lord, and evidently had no personal experience with
their own sign gifts or wonders. Signs and wonders are not mentioned in
the lists of spiritual gifts after Galatians. By the end of Paul's
ministry, he was telling Timothy to take a little wine for his "frequent
illnesses" (1 Timothy 5:23), and not being healed himself (2 Corinthians
12:7-9). This is completely inconsistent with your fake Charismatic
doctrine, which tells people they are carnal if they don't get healed
"every time" they ask for it. See https://christrose.news/ceased.

Post by Robert
Yes, oh YES people He seeks those who would serve him in all manner of things
in their life. He desires to gift you now greatly and later when all is said
and done HE WILL reward you greatly.

Idem.

Post by Robert
Odd that, go figure, He gifts us, He
supports us, He EMPOWERS us By His Spirit, and then rewards us in the end for
all eternity.

Idem.

Post by Robert
To me that is so unfathomable, for all we had to do was just to
sign on, and be willing to do as he desired.

We were spiritually DEAD until God initiated our salvation (Ephesians
2:1ff.). We didn't
"sign on". God signed us on by imparting saving faith through the
proclamation of the gospel (Romans 10:17).

Post by Robert
He gives us Life, and by giving
our life to HIS HANDS, He LOVES US!

He doesn't love us because we give our life to His hands. We love Him
because He first loved us (1 John 4:19), and dragged us to the Father
(John 6:44). Then again, you think you're the one who is sovereign, but
God is not. Go read Romans 9 again.

Post by Robert
And because of that one cannot help but
Love Him back. It makes little sense in this world. Yes, we must bear our
cross, but even in doing so, He supports us, and gives us strength. And how
few know or understand what the Cross actually is. That is another subject
for another time,...

"few know or understand" is your life motto. It's because you're the one
who usually doesn't know or understand. You're always trying to make
someone else out to be the idiot you are.

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On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 22:45:44 -0700
<vc5sa8$20nuk$***@dont-email.me>
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=172650560200
Stupefaction Robert <***@no.way> wrote:
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People that are already Born Again
Believers do not require faith to believe IN Jesus
Christ...
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To "clarify", Robert added:
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On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 10:56:20 -0700
<vcsa44$2q5q9$***@dont-email.me>
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=172719006300
Stupefaction Robert <***@no.waywrote:
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As I said, many times and in a variety
of ways, all of which is based on scripture.
They already have faith. And you are to
smart to understand that.
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Believe: to "have faith" from "pistis":
"faith" (Strong).

Stupefaction Robert: Believers don't
require the faith they "already have" in
Christ, to believe IN Christ.

And note, he says I'm "to [too] smart to
understand that"!

So I would have to be dumber to
understand and confuse his claims with
the truth?

This is the guy telling everyone else
they lack understanding and
comprehension, every time they fail to
agree with his nonsense and idiocy.

Post by Robert
As the point is, Jesus in these parables not only was prophesying but
instructing us in how to be winners!

Here are the Greek imperatives in Mark 4:

Mark 4:3 “Listen! Behold, a sower went out to sow.
Mark 4:9 And He said to them, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear!”
Mark 4:23 If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear.”
Mark 4:24 Then He said to them, “Take heed what you hear. With the same
measure you use, it will be measured to you; and to you who hear, more
will be given.

The parable shows us to "HEAR" what Jesus says. That's because faith
comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God (Romans 1:16; 10:17).
This exposes the Bible-attacking demon-boys in here who are constantly
trying to undermine people's attitude towards God's word. They are the
birds who pluck the seed of God's word from the pathway, lest others
benefit through the faith that comes by hearing God's word.

Post by Robert
“Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to
escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son
of man.” (Luk 21:36, KJV)

You promote rambling confusion.
--
Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved.'" (Romans 10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation

[Rod E.]

Post by Christ Rose
"few know or understand" is your life motto. It's because you're the one
who usually doesn't know or understand. You're always trying to make
someone else out to be the idiot you are.

I see some rotten fruit above. You haven't learned to hold
your brother up in truth and love. Calling a brother an
idiot isn't a sign of enduring love OR patience and worst
of all your words are exposing your ego.

Post by Christ Rose
You promote rambling confusion.

I understood what he was trying to say. If you need help then ask.

[Christ Rose]

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Sat, 7 Dec 2024 12:16:05 -0600
<vj23d6$382v4$***@dont-email.me>
"Rod E." <***@gmail.com> wrote:
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Post by Christ Rose
"few know or understand" is your life motto. It's because you're the
one who usually doesn't know or understand. You're always trying to
make someone else out to be the idiot you are.

   I see some rotten fruit above. You haven't learned to hold
   your brother up in truth and love.

• Apply that idea to Robert, hypocrite.

• You assume he's my brother. Yet Robert promotes Tritheism, which is
the heresy that there are three God Beings, not one. This is idolatry,
and no idolator will inherit eternal life (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

• He has devoted his life trying to undermine and poison people's minds
against sound Bible teaching, if it comes out of the mouth of nearly
anyone but himself. He's been doing it to me on a near daily basis for
years. Now he's doing it against Andrew. He condemns solid Bible
teaching as error, then turns around and repeats the same thing you just
said as if it's a correction. That's not love. Go preach your "love your
brother" sermon to Robert, hypocrite.

Calling a brother an
   idiot isn't a sign of enduring love

• "brother" assumed. Robert promotes the worship of three different God
Beings.

• Paul called people idiots when they were idiots.

1 Corinthians 14:16

Greek word: ἰδιώτης (idiotis)

Verse: "Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone
in the position of an outsider (ἰδιώτης) say 'Amen' to your thanksgiving
when he does not know what you are saying?" (1 Corinthians 14:16, ESV)

Explanation: In this context, "idiotas" refers to someone who is
unskilled or unlearned, particularly in spiritual matters. Paul uses the
term to describe someone who is not familiar with the practice of public
prayer or worship and cannot participate fully because they do not
understand what is being said.

1 Corinthians 14:23

Greek word: ἰδιώτης (idiotis)

Verse: "If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in
tongues, and outsiders (ἰδιώτης) or unbelievers enter, will they not say
that you are out of your minds?" (1 Corinthians 14:23, ESV)

Explanation: Here, "idiotas" refers to an outsider or someone who is not
a believer, and thus not familiar with Christian worship practices. Paul
highlights that a person in this category, unversed in the spiritual
language or practices of the church, might misunderstand and think the
believers are behaving irrationally.
1 Corinthians 14:38

Greek word: ἰδιώτης (idiotis)

Verse: "If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized." (1
Corinthians 14:38, ESV)

Explanation: In this verse, Paul speaks of someone who does not
acknowledge or accept the teachings and order of the church. The word
"idiotas" here implies someone who is uninformed or does not understand
the importance of the church’s teachings and order, and as a result, is
not regarded as part of the faithful community.

Meaning of "Idiotas"

The term "ἰδιώτης" (idiotis) is derived from the word "ἰδιώτης" (idios),
which means "private" or "one's own." In its original sense, "idiotas"
referred to someone who was unskilled or untrained in a particular area,
especially compared to others with more expertise. In these passages,
Paul uses it to refer to someone who is unlearned in spiritual matters,
an outsider, or someone not familiar with Christian practices.

The term does not carry the negative connotation of "foolish" or
"stupid" but rather someone who lacks understanding or knowledge in a
specific area, in this case, the ways of the church or the proper use of
spiritual gifts.

And, as noted, you incorrectly assume he is a brother. He promotes
idolatry and tries to undermine the gospel and sound Bible teaching on a
daily basis, if it comes out of the mouth of nearly anyone but himself.

OR patience and worst
   of all your words are exposing your ego.

Speak to Robert, hypocrite. He's been pretending like everyone but
himself is an idiot, for years:

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Sat, 16 Nov 2024 17:35:05 -0800,
<vhbh89$9phg$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:

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If you weren't such a RC Hypocrite what I quoted above is what you would be
using, not some English translation. You are so full of the religious
nonsense you spew out that you know not how to be a disciple of yeshua the
Messiah.

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Fri, 06 Dec 2024 19:19:11 -0800,
<vj0erf$2r817$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:
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...how few know or understand what the Cross actually is.

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Tue, 26 Nov 2024 22:35:38 -0800,
<vi6ejq$3t49o$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:

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If your conscience is seared, then how will you understand? And look
also at
all the excuses one has for doing this thing or that? Which Jesus stated
was
of the flesh, carnal.

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Mon, 25 Nov 2024 11:07:26 -0800,
<vi2hte$2umm9$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:

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Most people have not a clue of the origination and usage of the word,
and its
pagan beginnings.

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Here's him accusing Andrew (one of the few people in here who actually
proclaims the accurate gospel) of not being able to listen or understand:

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Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:37:09 -0800,
<vhdun5$shn9$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:

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Also I would like to know why it is that you cannot listen to or understand
what others bring to your attention

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Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:03:27 -0800,
<vh8cuv$3j3jh$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:

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they walk by their minds having no understanding of how to "walk in the
spirit".

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Tue, 29 Oct 2024 15:18:32 -0700,
<vfrmvo$1nvva$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:

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What he fails to understand is that...

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Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:24:09 -0700,
<vfoks8$145na$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:

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Are you unable to understand what others say? Do you lack reading
comprehension becuase [sic] you are so bound up by an agenda?

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Mon, 28 Oct 2024 10:02:39 -0700,
<vfog3f$12spg$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:

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You did not go back and read the scripture and the total context which I
mentioned, OR
ought of ignorance just did not understand what Jesus was speaking in
regards to a future time.

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Sat, 26 Oct 2024 11:42:38 -0700,
<vfjd6u$3r8q6$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:

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what do you even know or understand from the word of God,
about it?

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Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:18:56 -0700,
<vfeh4g$2qk6e$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:

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And from what you all speak who spout this doctrine of
devils, and understand not what they mean


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Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:58:41 -0700,
<vek46h$1bthe$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:

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yet never once did it occur to you to understand the truth of the matter
and find out why your thinking was so misconstrued.

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Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:03:27 -0800,
<vh8cuv$3j3jh$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:
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...they walk by their minds having no understanding of how to ‘walk in
the spirit’. A case in point is made here in the Book of Isaiah, and
having read these self-same scriptures they took out of it a precept
while never understanding nor realizing the full context of these words.
They exhibit what these drunkards did and hence lack knowledge and
understanding.
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Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:20:09 -0800,
<vioe8p$foks$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:
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They know not the difference between a religious faith, and the Faith,...

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Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:34:58 -0800,
<vhh112$1lsif$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:
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Wrong. Especially since you know not the definition of days in that day and
according to God and the Jews who followed His Word.

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Tue, 08 Oct 2024 20:36:04 -0700,
<ve4tn4$2h2da$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:
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You know not the meaning of it, Is a tri-cycle three bikes in one?

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That enough, or do you want a few hundred more? Everything you feign
indignation over here, Robert has been doing to others for decades. That
isn't even the half of it.

Post by Christ Rose
You promote rambling confusion.

  I understood what he was trying to say. If you need help then ask.

"...[W]hat he was trying to say".

• This acknowledges a discrepancy between what he actually said and what
he was "trying to say".

• Experience shows that if you assume anything Robert says, he'll be the
first one to complain that you think you know what he was thinking and
how you don't have the right to judge his intent.

• He speaks in gibberish half the time, then when you try to guess what
he meant, he uses it as a tool to deny and claim you don't have the
understanding to read. He's done this to me a dozen times. He talks
gibberish, then blames you for being unable to comprehend or read.

• But if you hazard a guess about what he means, he immediately
complains that you're wrong and are judging his intent.

So yeah, you're just operating as a biased politician here, not actually
trying to promote the truth. Go preach to Robert. He's been doing what
you condemn here for decades, against sound Bible teaching.
--
Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved.'" (Romans 10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation

[Rod E.]

Post by Christ Rose
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Sat, 7 Dec 2024 12:16:05 -0600
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Post by Christ Rose
"few know or understand" is your life motto. It's because you're the
one who usually doesn't know or understand. You're always trying to
make someone else out to be the idiot you are.

    I see some rotten fruit above. You haven't learned to hold
    your brother up in truth and love.

 • Apply that idea to Robert, hypocrite.

You have already; are these not your words?

Meaning of "Idiotas"

Post by Christ Rose
The term "ἰδιώτης" (idiotis) is derived from the word "ἰδιώτης" (idios),
which means "private" or "one's own." In its original sense, "idiotas"
referred to someone who was unskilled or untrained in a particular area,
especially compared to others with more expertise. In these passages,
Paul uses it to refer to someone who is unlearned in spiritual matters,
an outsider, or someone not familiar with Christian practices.
The term does not carry the negative connotation of "foolish" or
"stupid" but rather someone who lacks understanding or knowledge in a
specific area, in this case, the ways of the church or the proper use of
spiritual gifts.
• You assume he's my brother. Yet Robert promotes Tritheism, which is
the heresy that there are three God Beings, not one. This is idolatry,
and no idolator will inherit eternal life (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).
• He has devoted his life trying to undermine and poison people's minds
against sound Bible teaching, if it comes out of the mouth of nearly
anyone but himself. He's been doing it to me on a near daily basis for
years. Now he's doing it against Andrew. He condemns solid Bible
teaching as error, then turns around and repeats the same thing you just
said as if it's a correction. That's not love. Go preach your "love your
brother" sermon to Robert, hypocrite.

    Calling a brother an
    idiot isn't a sign of enduring love

• "brother" assumed. Robert promotes the worship of three different God
Beings.

They are not different, they are of the same God. It is your
understanding of God that is flawed. Christ Himself was God
the savior. As He said, "The Father and I are One.

Robert, Michael and even I are your brothers in Christ.

Post by Christ Rose
• Paul called people idiots when they were idiots.
1 Corinthians 14:16

This one reason that Paul was considered a sinner.

Post by Christ Rose
Greek word: ἰδιώτης (idiotis)
Verse: "Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone
in the position of an outsider (ἰδιώτης) say 'Amen' to your thanksgiving
when he does not know what you are saying?" (1 Corinthians 14:16, ESV)
Explanation: In this context, "idiotas" refers to someone who is
unskilled or unlearned, particularly in spiritual matters. Paul uses the
term to describe someone who is not familiar with the practice of public
prayer or worship and cannot participate fully because they do not
understand what is being said.
1 Corinthians 14:23
Greek word: ἰδιώτης (idiotis)
Verse: "If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in
tongues, and outsiders (ἰδιώτης) or unbelievers enter, will they not say
that you are out of your minds?" (1 Corinthians 14:23, ESV)
Explanation: Here, "idiotas" refers to an outsider or someone who is not
a believer, and thus not familiar with Christian worship practices. Paul
highlights that a person in this category, unversed in the spiritual
language or practices of the church, might misunderstand and think the
believers are behaving irrationally.
1 Corinthians 14:38
Greek word: ἰδιώτης (idiotis)
Verse: "If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized." (1
Corinthians 14:38, ESV)
Explanation: In this verse, Paul speaks of someone who does not
acknowledge or accept the teachings and order of the church.

This makes Paul fallible for his inability to foresee the church
murdering the Cathars for their wealth and lands and for helping the
Nazis to escape to safety and avoid war crimes trials.

But Paul was always fallible..even admitting that he was still a sinner.

This is why I would not use Paul when encouraging people to be better
Christians!

Jesus is the ONE that should be your example, not Paul. Seek
perfection of the LORD, even when you have not made it.

Post by Christ Rose
The word
"idiotas" here implies someone who is uninformed or does not understand
the importance of the church’s teachings and order, and as a result, is
not regarded as part of the faithful community.
Meaning of "Idiotas"
The term "ἰδιώτης" (idiotis) is derived from the word "ἰδιώτης" (idios),
which means "private" or "one's own." In its original sense, "idiotas"
referred to someone who was unskilled or untrained in a particular area,
especially compared to others with more expertise. In these passages,
Paul uses it to refer to someone who is unlearned in spiritual matters,
an outsider, or someone not familiar with Christian practices.
The term does not carry the negative connotation of "foolish" or
"stupid" but rather someone who lacks understanding or knowledge in a
specific area, in this case, the ways of the church or the proper use of
spiritual gifts.

But today it carries another connotation, and is an offense.

To Robert I say;

Good sense makes one slow to anger, and it is his glory to overlook an
offense.

Post by Christ Rose
And, as noted, you incorrectly assume he is a brother. He promotes
idolatry and tries to undermine the gospel and sound Bible teaching on a
daily basis, if it comes out of the mouth of nearly anyone but himself.

And the proof of this accusation is?

Post by Christ Rose

    OR patience and worst
    of all your words are exposing your ego.

Speak to Robert, hypocrite. He's been pretending like everyone but
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Then why are you angry?

" Meaning of "Idiotas"

Post by Christ Rose
The term "ἰδιώτης" (idiotis) is derived from the word "ἰδιώτης" (idios),
which means "private" or "one's own." In its original sense, "idiotas"
referred to someone who was unskilled or untrained in a particular area,
especially compared to others with more expertise. In these passages,
Paul uses it to refer to someone who is unlearned in spiritual matters,
an outsider, or someone not familiar with Christian practices.
The term does not carry the negative connotation of "foolish" or
"stupid" but rather someone who lacks understanding or knowledge in a
specific area, in this case, the ways of the church or the proper use of
spiritual gifts.
Sat, 16 Nov 2024 17:35:05 -0800,
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If you weren't such a RC Hypocrite what I quoted above is what you would be
using, not some English translation. You are so full of the religious
nonsense you spew out that you know not how to be a disciple of yeshua the
Messiah.
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And you are offended? I was a practicing Catholic at one time
in my life until I learned about the history of the church
and the worship and veneration of idols. Today I will not
step foot on Catholic ground.

Post by Christ Rose
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Fri, 06 Dec 2024 19:19:11 -0800,
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...how few know or understand what the Cross actually is.
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Tue, 26 Nov 2024 22:35:38 -0800,
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If your conscience is seared, then how will you understand? And look
also at
all the excuses one has for doing this thing or that? Which Jesus stated
was
of the flesh, carnal.
========================================
========================================
Mon, 25 Nov 2024 11:07:26 -0800,
========================================
Most people have not a clue of the origination and usage of the word,
and its
pagan beginnings.
========================================
Here's him accusing Andrew (one of the few people in here who actually
========================================
Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:37:09 -0800,
========================================
Also I would like to know why it is that you cannot listen to or understand
what others bring to your attention
========================================
========================================
Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:03:27 -0800,
========================================
they walk by their minds having no understanding of how to "walk in the
spirit".
========================================
========================================
Tue, 29 Oct 2024 15:18:32 -0700,
========================================
What he fails to understand is that...
========================================
========================================
Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:24:09 -0700,
========================================
Are you unable to understand what others say? Do you lack reading
comprehension becuase [sic] you are so bound up by an agenda?
========================================
========================================
Mon, 28 Oct 2024 10:02:39 -0700,
========================================
You did not go back and read the scripture and the total context which I
mentioned, OR
ought of ignorance just did not understand what Jesus was speaking in
regards to a future time.
========================================
========================================
Sat, 26 Oct 2024 11:42:38 -0700,
========================================
what do you even know or understand from the word of God,
about it?
========================================
========================================
Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:18:56 -0700,
========================================
And from what you all speak who spout this doctrine of
devils, and understand not what they mean
========================================
Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:58:41 -0700,
========================================
yet never once did it occur to you to understand the truth of the matter
and find out why your thinking was so misconstrued.
========================================
========================================
Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:03:27 -0800,
========================================
...they walk by their minds having no understanding of how to ‘walk in
the spirit’. A case in point is made here in the Book of Isaiah, and
having read these self-same scriptures they took out of it a precept
while never understanding nor realizing the full context of these words.
They exhibit what these drunkards did and hence lack knowledge and
understanding.
========================================
========================================
Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:20:09 -0800,
========================================
They know not the difference between a religious faith, and the Faith,...
========================================
========================================
Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:34:58 -0800,
========================================
Wrong. Especially since you know not the definition of days in that day and
according to God and the Jews who followed His Word.
========================================
========================================
Tue, 08 Oct 2024 20:36:04 -0700,
========================================
You know not the meaning of it, Is a tri-cycle three bikes in one?
========================================
That enough, or do you want a few hundred more? Everything you feign
indignation over here, Robert has been doing to others for decades. That
isn't even the half of it.

Post by Christ Rose
You promote rambling confusion.

   I understood what he was trying to say. If you need help then ask.

"...[W]hat he was trying to say".
• This acknowledges a discrepancy between what he actually said and what
he was "trying to say".
• Experience shows that if you assume anything Robert says, he'll be the
first one to complain that you think you know what he was thinking and
how you don't have the right to judge his intent.
• He speaks in gibberish half the time, then when you try to guess what
he meant, he uses it as a tool to deny and claim you don't have the
understanding to read. He's done this to me a dozen times. He talks
gibberish, then blames you for being unable to comprehend or read.

Don't condemn him for this. Take the time and the patience to
understand what he is trying to put to voice. Michael sometimes
says things that few understand, but take the time to listen and
understand. The main idea is to help others to form what they are trying
to say. To do that you must be blessed with a very strong intuition
which only comes from God. Pray for this.

Post by Christ Rose
• But if you hazard a guess about what he means, he immediately
complains that you're wrong and are judging his intent.
So yeah, you're just operating as a biased politician here, not actually
trying to promote the truth. Go preach to Robert.

I'm preaching to you. I have already spoken with Robert in the past
and now it's your turn.

Deal with it. Be kind and considerate, not hateful and work the
problems that come before you. If your intelligence is truly
superior it will show, but if it is pride talking then you need help/



He's been doing what

Post by Christ Rose
you condemn here for decades, against sound Bible teaching.

[Robert]

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
========================================
Sat, 7 Dec 2024 12:16:05 -0600
========================================

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
"few know or understand" is your life motto. It's because you're the
one who usually doesn't know or understand. You're always trying to
make someone else out to be the idiot you are.

I see some rotten fruit above. You haven't learned to hold
your brother up in truth and love.

• Apply that idea to Robert, hypocrite.

You have already; are these not your words?
Meaning of "Idiotas"

Post by Christ Rose
The term "ἰδιώτης" (idiotis) is derived from the word
"ἰδιώτης" (idios),
which means "private" or "one's own." In its original sense, "idiotas"
referred to someone who was unskilled or untrained in a particular area,
especially compared to others with more expertise. In these passages,
Paul uses it to refer to someone who is unlearned in spiritual matters,
an outsider, or someone not familiar with Christian practices.
The term does not carry the negative connotation of "foolish" or
"stupid" but rather someone who lacks understanding or knowledge in a
specific area, in this case, the ways of the church or the proper use of
spiritual gifts.

Just saw this, so I did a little research on the word, this definition is
somewhat correct, yet the word (idiotis) does not appear in Strongs
dictionary. The koine greek form he used was correct. Yet he does not take
into consideration the contextual usages of the word and its forms.

Using the logic he used to defend his verbiage he could likewise use the
terms, fuck, fucker, mother fucker, and declare his holiness and proper
language being as the use of the word Fornication in both the OT and the NT.
As if any form of the words in the language of men in the Bible are now
considered holy and the language of God Himself. Context be damned.

Here he did a similar thing as the Pharisee’s in the time of Jesus did to
defend their actions and beliefs. Which Jesus spoke against for their
hypocrisy.

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
• You assume he's my brother. Yet Robert promotes Tritheism, which is
the heresy that there are three God Beings, not one. This is idolatry,
and no idolator will inherit eternal life (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

I may not be his brother as he assumes he is correct in all things, not the
word of God being the absolute truth.

What he said here following that statement of his is a total lie, a
fabrication, and denies every scripture that he was shown such as and similar
to, “Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my
Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father,
and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” (Jhn 20:17, KJV) which is
the Word of God. Also the other scriptures in both the Old and the New
Testaments describing this, as well as the word ‘unity’, the Godhead, and
facts such as they are not seated on the same throne in heaven.

He treats all similar scriptures as if they were the words of ‘Robert’
and not the Words of the Heavenly Father, to which Jesus/Yeshua gave full
credit for all he said and did. Who also empowered the work of Jesus on this
earth as the Son of God.

I am writing this for the benefit of any who read this now or in the future,
and it in no way contradicts my previous testimony.

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
• He has devoted his life trying to undermine and poison people's minds
against sound Bible teaching, if it comes out of the mouth of nearly
anyone but himself. He's been doing it to me on a near daily basis for
years. Now he's doing it against Andrew. He condemns solid Bible
teaching as error, then turns around and repeats the same thing you just
said as if it's a correction. That's not love. Go preach your "love your
brother" sermon to Robert, hypocrite.

Why then have you seen not response from me to each and every post of yours
‘AI Rosie’ and non since I KF’s you a while ago and thus followed the
scriptures in 1 Cor 5:11 As I mentioned to you before.

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose

Post by Rod E.
Calling a brother an
idiot isn't a sign of enduring love

• "brother" assumed. Robert promotes the worship of three different God
Beings.

They are not different, they are of the same God. It is your
understanding of God that is flawed. Christ Himself was God
the savior. As He said, "The Father and I are One.
Robert, Michael and even I are your brothers in Christ.

Post by Christ Rose
• Paul called people idiots when they were idiots.
1 Corinthians 14:16

This one reason that Paul was considered a sinner.

Post by Christ Rose
Greek word: ἰδιώτης (idiotis)
Verse: "Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone
in the position of an outsider (ἰδιώτης) say 'Amen' to your thanksgiving
when he does not know what you are saying?" (1 Corinthians 14:16, ESV)
Explanation: In this context, "idiotas" refers to someone who is
unskilled or unlearned, particularly in spiritual matters. Paul uses the
term to describe someone who is not familiar with the practice of public
prayer or worship and cannot participate fully because they do not
understand what is being said.
1 Corinthians 14:23
Greek word: ἰδιώτης (idiotis)
Verse: "If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in
tongues, and outsiders (ἰδιώτης) or unbelievers enter, will they not say
that you are out of your minds?" (1 Corinthians 14:23, ESV)
Explanation: Here, "idiotas" refers to an outsider or someone who is not
a believer, and thus not familiar with Christian worship practices. Paul
highlights that a person in this category, unversed in the spiritual
language or practices of the church, might misunderstand and think the
believers are behaving irrationally.
1 Corinthians 14:38
Greek word: ἰδιώτης (idiotis)
Verse: "If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized." (1
Corinthians 14:38, ESV)
Explanation: In this verse, Paul speaks of someone who does not
acknowledge or accept the teachings and order of the church.

He is in error in his logic as well as the transliterated forms of the word.
Also not once is the use of the word “idiot” found in the KJV

Post by Rod E.
This makes Paul fallible for his inability to foresee the church
murdering the Cathars for their wealth and lands and for helping the
Nazis to escape to safety and avoid war crimes trials.
But Paul was always fallible..even admitting that he was still a sinner.
This is why I would not use Paul when encouraging people to be better
Christians!
Jesus is the ONE that should be your example, not Paul. Seek
perfection of the LORD, even when you have not made it.

Post by Christ Rose
The word
"idiotas" here implies someone who is uninformed or does not understand
the importance of the church’s teachings and order, and as a result, is
not regarded as part of the faithful community.
Meaning of "Idiotas"
The term "ἰδιώτης" (idiotis) is derived from the word
"ἰδιώτης" (idios),
which means "private" or "one's own." In its original sense, "idiotas"
referred to someone who was unskilled or untrained in a particular area,
especially compared to others with more expertise. In these passages,
Paul uses it to refer to someone who is unlearned in spiritual matters,
an outsider, or someone not familiar with Christian practices.
The term does not carry the negative connotation of "foolish" or
"stupid" but rather someone who lacks understanding or knowledge in a
specific area, in this case, the ways of the church or the proper use of
spiritual gifts.

But today it carries another connotation, and is an offense.
To Robert I say;
Good sense makes one slow to anger, and it is his glory to overlook an
offense.

And I agree, for this is also noted in Scripture, as well as not to let a
root of bitterness take hold of us, and then grow up within us ending up with
our being defiled.

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
And, as noted, you incorrectly assume he is a brother. He promotes
idolatry and tries to undermine the gospel and sound Bible teaching on a
daily basis, if it comes out of the mouth of nearly anyone but himself.

And the proof of this accusation is?

Post by Christ Rose

Post by Rod E.
OR patience and worst
of all your words are exposing your ego.

Speak to Robert, hypocrite. He's been pretending like everyone but
========================================

Then why are you angry?
" Meaning of "Idiotas"

Post by Christ Rose
The term "ἰδιώτης" (idiotis) is derived from the word
"ἰδιώτης" (idios),
which means "private" or "one's own." In its original sense, "idiotas"
referred to someone who was unskilled or untrained in a particular area,
especially compared to others with more expertise. In these passages,
Paul uses it to refer to someone who is unlearned in spiritual matters,
an outsider, or someone not familiar with Christian practices.
The term does not carry the negative connotation of "foolish" or
"stupid" but rather someone who lacks understanding or knowledge in a
specific area, in this case, the ways of the church or the proper use of
spiritual gifts.
Sat, 16 Nov 2024 17:35:05 -0800,
========================================
If you weren't such a RC Hypocrite what I quoted above is what you would be
using, not some English translation. You are so full of the religious
nonsense you spew out that you know not how to be a disciple of yeshua the
Messiah.
========================================

And you are offended? I was a practicing Catholic at one time
in my life until I learned about the history of the church
and the worship and veneration of idols. Today I will not
step foot on Catholic ground.

Post by Christ Rose
========================================
Fri, 06 Dec 2024 19:19:11 -0800,
========================================
...how few know or understand what the Cross actually is.
========================================

I have to note here for any who read this, that He did not post the Message
ID’d here so that others could review the posts so see if what he quoted
were true, in context, and not just snippets, like sound bites, used to
distort what a person said, and I also note that he post edited a few of
these as well.

It is interesting to see that I have a ‘fan boi’ hanging unto every word
spoken by me, but it is too bad he cannot grasp the context especially in
light of the scriptures presented to this anonymous creature of AI Rosie.

I do not know how AI Rosie will respond to these things as I am unaware of
what he posts unless I see it quoted within the replies of others.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name
of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

These words spoken by Jesus, three distinct names, Persons. Yet all unified
in the Godhead.

Jesus, as he was getting ready to leave, left these instructions for the
Disciples, all of them at that time, as well as for us, today.

“And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. Hitherto
have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy
may be full. These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time
cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you
plainly of the Father. At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not
unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: For the Father himself loveth
you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. I
came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the
world, and go to the Father.” (Jhn 16:23-28, KJV)

These things are for all of us, to believe and follow, or deny.

Again, Rod, I apologize for butting in here. I could have gone into much
greater detail regarding the words he claims were used on Corinthians two of
them were without foundation of any type. Which I could elaborate on, or they
can search for themselves, as it has already been published well before my
lifetime. ;)

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
========================================
Tue, 26 Nov 2024 22:35:38 -0800,
========================================
If your conscience is seared, then how will you understand? And look
also at
all the excuses one has for doing this thing or that? Which Jesus stated
was
of the flesh, carnal.
========================================
========================================
Mon, 25 Nov 2024 11:07:26 -0800,
========================================
Most people have not a clue of the origination and usage of the word,
and its
pagan beginnings.
========================================
Here's him accusing Andrew (one of the few people in here who actually
========================================
Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:37:09 -0800,
========================================
Also I would like to know why it is that you cannot listen to or understand
what others bring to your attention
========================================
========================================
Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:03:27 -0800,
========================================
they walk by their minds having no understanding of how to "walk in the
spirit".
========================================
========================================
Tue, 29 Oct 2024 15:18:32 -0700,
========================================
What he fails to understand is that...
========================================
========================================
Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:24:09 -0700,
========================================
Are you unable to understand what others say? Do you lack reading
comprehension becuase [sic] you are so bound up by an agenda?
========================================
========================================
Mon, 28 Oct 2024 10:02:39 -0700,
========================================
You did not go back and read the scripture and the total context which I
mentioned, OR
ought of ignorance just did not understand what Jesus was speaking in
regards to a future time.
========================================
========================================
Sat, 26 Oct 2024 11:42:38 -0700,
========================================
what do you even know or understand from the word of God,
about it?
========================================
========================================
Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:18:56 -0700,
========================================
And from what you all speak who spout this doctrine of
devils, and understand not what they mean
========================================
Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:58:41 -0700,
========================================
yet never once did it occur to you to understand the truth of the matter
and find out why your thinking was so misconstrued.
========================================
========================================
Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:03:27 -0800,
========================================
...they walk by their minds having no understanding of how to ‘walk in
the spirit’. A case in point is made here in the Book of Isaiah, and
having read these self-same scriptures they took out of it a precept
while never understanding nor realizing the full context of these words.
They exhibit what these drunkards did and hence lack knowledge and
understanding.
========================================
========================================
Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:20:09 -0800,
========================================
They know not the difference between a religious faith, and the Faith,...
========================================
========================================
Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:34:58 -0800,
========================================
Wrong. Especially since you know not the definition of days in that day and
according to God and the Jews who followed His Word.
========================================
========================================
Tue, 08 Oct 2024 20:36:04 -0700,
========================================
You know not the meaning of it, Is a tri-cycle three bikes in one?
========================================
That enough, or do you want a few hundred more? Everything you feign
indignation over here, Robert has been doing to others for decades. That
isn't even the half of it.

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
You promote rambling confusion.

I understood what he was trying to say. If you need help then ask.

"...[W]hat he was trying to say".
• This acknowledges a discrepancy between what he actually said and what
he was "trying to say".
• Experience shows that if you assume anything Robert says, he'll be the
first one to complain that you think you know what he was thinking and
how you don't have the right to judge his intent.
• He speaks in gibberish half the time, then when you try to guess what
he meant, he uses it as a tool to deny and claim you don't have the
understanding to read. He's done this to me a dozen times. He talks
gibberish, then blames you for being unable to comprehend or read.

Don't condemn him for this. Take the time and the patience to
understand what he is trying to put to voice. Michael sometimes
says things that few understand, but take the time to listen and
understand. The main idea is to help others to form what they are trying
to say. To do that you must be blessed with a very strong intuition
which only comes from God. Pray for this.

Post by Christ Rose
• But if you hazard a guess about what he means, he immediately
complains that you're wrong and are judging his intent.
So yeah, you're just operating as a biased politician here, not actually
trying to promote the truth. Go preach to Robert.

I'm preaching to you. I have already spoken with Robert in the past
and now it's your turn.
Deal with it. Be kind and considerate, not hateful and work the
problems that come before you. If your intelligence is truly
superior it will show, but if it is pride talking then you need help/
He's been doing what

Post by Christ Rose
you condemn here for decades, against sound Bible teaching.

[Rod E.]

Post by Robert

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
========================================
Sat, 7 Dec 2024 12:16:05 -0600
========================================

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
"few know or understand" is your life motto. It's because you're the
one who usually doesn't know or understand. You're always trying to
make someone else out to be the idiot you are.

I see some rotten fruit above. You haven't learned to hold
your brother up in truth and love.

• Apply that idea to Robert, hypocrite.

You have already; are these not your words?
Meaning of "Idiotas"

Post by Christ Rose
The term "ἰδιώτης" (idiotis) is derived from the word
"ἰδιώτης" (idios),
which means "private" or "one's own." In its original sense, "idiotas"
referred to someone who was unskilled or untrained in a particular area,
especially compared to others with more expertise. In these passages,
Paul uses it to refer to someone who is unlearned in spiritual matters,
an outsider, or someone not familiar with Christian practices.
The term does not carry the negative connotation of "foolish" or
"stupid" but rather someone who lacks understanding or knowledge in a
specific area, in this case, the ways of the church or the proper use of
spiritual gifts.

Just saw this, so I did a little research on the word, this definition is
somewhat correct, yet the word (idiotis) does not appear in Strongs
dictionary. The koine greek form he used was correct. Yet he does not take
into consideration the contextual usages of the word and its forms.
Using the logic he used to defend his verbiage he could likewise use the
terms, fuck, fucker, mother fucker, and declare his holiness and proper
language being as the use of the word Fornication in both the OT and the NT.
As if any form of the words in the language of men in the Bible are now
considered holy and the language of God Himself. Context be damned.
Here he did a similar thing as the Pharisee’s in the time of Jesus did to
defend their actions and beliefs. Which Jesus spoke against for their
hypocrisy.

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
• You assume he's my brother. Yet Robert promotes Tritheism, which is
the heresy that there are three God Beings, not one. This is idolatry,
and no idolator will inherit eternal life (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

I may not be his brother as he assumes he is correct in all things, not the
word of God being the absolute truth.
What he said here following that statement of his is a total lie, a
fabrication, and denies every scripture that he was shown such as and similar
to, “Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my
Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father,
and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” (Jhn 20:17, KJV) which is
the Word of God. Also the other scriptures in both the Old and the New
Testaments describing this, as well as the word ‘unity’, the Godhead, and
facts such as they are not seated on the same throne in heaven.
He treats all similar scriptures as if they were the words of ‘Robert’
and not the Words of the Heavenly Father, to which Jesus/Yeshua gave full
credit for all he said and did. Who also empowered the work of Jesus on this
earth as the Son of God.
I am writing this for the benefit of any who read this now or in the future,
and it in no way contradicts my previous testimony.

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
• He has devoted his life trying to undermine and poison people's minds
against sound Bible teaching, if it comes out of the mouth of nearly
anyone but himself. He's been doing it to me on a near daily basis for
years. Now he's doing it against Andrew. He condemns solid Bible
teaching as error, then turns around and repeats the same thing you just
said as if it's a correction. That's not love. Go preach your "love your
brother" sermon to Robert, hypocrite.

Why then have you seen not response from me to each and every post of yours
‘AI Rosie’ and non since I KF’s you a while ago and thus followed the
scriptures in 1 Cor 5:11 As I mentioned to you before.

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose

Post by Rod E.
Calling a brother an
idiot isn't a sign of enduring love

• "brother" assumed. Robert promotes the worship of three different God
Beings.

They are not different, they are of the same God. It is your
understanding of God that is flawed. Christ Himself was God
the savior. As He said, "The Father and I are One.
Robert, Michael and even I are your brothers in Christ.

Post by Christ Rose
• Paul called people idiots when they were idiots.
1 Corinthians 14:16

This one reason that Paul was considered a sinner.

Post by Christ Rose
Greek word: ἰδιώτης (idiotis)
Verse: "Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone
in the position of an outsider (ἰδιώτης) say 'Amen' to your thanksgiving
when he does not know what you are saying?" (1 Corinthians 14:16, ESV)
Explanation: In this context, "idiotas" refers to someone who is
unskilled or unlearned, particularly in spiritual matters. Paul uses the
term to describe someone who is not familiar with the practice of public
prayer or worship and cannot participate fully because they do not
understand what is being said.
1 Corinthians 14:23
Greek word: ἰδιώτης (idiotis)
Verse: "If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in
tongues, and outsiders (ἰδιώτης) or unbelievers enter, will they not say
that you are out of your minds?" (1 Corinthians 14:23, ESV)
Explanation: Here, "idiotas" refers to an outsider or someone who is not
a believer, and thus not familiar with Christian worship practices. Paul
highlights that a person in this category, unversed in the spiritual
language or practices of the church, might misunderstand and think the
believers are behaving irrationally.
1 Corinthians 14:38
Greek word: ἰδιώτης (idiotis)
Verse: "If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized." (1
Corinthians 14:38, ESV)
Explanation: In this verse, Paul speaks of someone who does not
acknowledge or accept the teachings and order of the church.

He is in error in his logic as well as the transliterated forms of the word.
Also not once is the use of the word “idiot” found in the KJV

Post by Rod E.
This makes Paul fallible for his inability to foresee the church
murdering the Cathars for their wealth and lands and for helping the
Nazis to escape to safety and avoid war crimes trials.
But Paul was always fallible..even admitting that he was still a sinner.
This is why I would not use Paul when encouraging people to be better
Christians!
Jesus is the ONE that should be your example, not Paul. Seek
perfection of the LORD, even when you have not made it.

Post by Christ Rose
The word
"idiotas" here implies someone who is uninformed or does not understand
the importance of the church’s teachings and order, and as a result, is
not regarded as part of the faithful community.
Meaning of "Idiotas"
The term "ἰδιώτης" (idiotis) is derived from the word
"ἰδιώτης" (idios),
which means "private" or "one's own." In its original sense, "idiotas"
referred to someone who was unskilled or untrained in a particular area,
especially compared to others with more expertise. In these passages,
Paul uses it to refer to someone who is unlearned in spiritual matters,
an outsider, or someone not familiar with Christian practices.
The term does not carry the negative connotation of "foolish" or
"stupid" but rather someone who lacks understanding or knowledge in a
specific area, in this case, the ways of the church or the proper use of
spiritual gifts.

But today it carries another connotation, and is an offense.
To Robert I say;
Good sense makes one slow to anger, and it is his glory to overlook an
offense.

And I agree, for this is also noted in Scripture, as well as not to let a
root of bitterness take hold of us, and then grow up within us ending up with
our being defiled.

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
And, as noted, you incorrectly assume he is a brother. He promotes
idolatry and tries to undermine the gospel and sound Bible teaching on a
daily basis, if it comes out of the mouth of nearly anyone but himself.

And the proof of this accusation is?

Post by Christ Rose

Post by Rod E.
OR patience and worst
of all your words are exposing your ego.

Speak to Robert, hypocrite. He's been pretending like everyone but
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Then why are you angry?
" Meaning of "Idiotas"

Post by Christ Rose
The term "ἰδιώτης" (idiotis) is derived from the word
"ἰδιώτης" (idios),
which means "private" or "one's own." In its original sense, "idiotas"
referred to someone who was unskilled or untrained in a particular area,
especially compared to others with more expertise. In these passages,
Paul uses it to refer to someone who is unlearned in spiritual matters,
an outsider, or someone not familiar with Christian practices.
The term does not carry the negative connotation of "foolish" or
"stupid" but rather someone who lacks understanding or knowledge in a
specific area, in this case, the ways of the church or the proper use of
spiritual gifts.
Sat, 16 Nov 2024 17:35:05 -0800,
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If you weren't such a RC Hypocrite what I quoted above is what you would be
using, not some English translation. You are so full of the religious
nonsense you spew out that you know not how to be a disciple of yeshua the
Messiah.
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And you are offended? I was a practicing Catholic at one time
in my life until I learned about the history of the church
and the worship and veneration of idols. Today I will not
step foot on Catholic ground.

Post by Christ Rose
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Fri, 06 Dec 2024 19:19:11 -0800,
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...how few know or understand what the Cross actually is.
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I have to note here for any who read this, that He did not post the Message
ID’d here so that others could review the posts so see if what he quoted
were true, in context, and not just snippets, like sound bites, used to
distort what a person said, and I also note that he post edited a few of
these as well.
It is interesting to see that I have a ‘fan boi’ hanging unto every word
spoken by me, but it is too bad he cannot grasp the context especially in
light of the scriptures presented to this anonymous creature of AI Rosie.
I do not know how AI Rosie will respond to these things as I am unaware of
what he posts unless I see it quoted within the replies of others.
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name
These words spoken by Jesus, three distinct names, Persons. Yet all unified
in the Godhead.
Jesus, as he was getting ready to leave, left these instructions for the
Disciples, all of them at that time, as well as for us, today.
“And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. Hitherto
have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy
may be full. These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time
cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you
plainly of the Father. At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not
unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: For the Father himself loveth
you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. I
came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the
world, and go to the Father.” (Jhn 16:23-28, KJV)
These things are for all of us, to believe and follow, or deny.
Again, Rod, I apologize for butting in here. I could have gone into much
greater detail regarding the words he claims were used on Corinthians two of
them were without foundation of any type. Which I could elaborate on, or they
can search for themselves, as it has already been published well before my
lifetime. ;)

Not a problem Robert. I hope you all will see better days.

Post by Robert

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
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Tue, 26 Nov 2024 22:35:38 -0800,
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If your conscience is seared, then how will you understand? And look
also at
all the excuses one has for doing this thing or that? Which Jesus stated
was
of the flesh, carnal.
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Mon, 25 Nov 2024 11:07:26 -0800,
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Most people have not a clue of the origination and usage of the word,
and its
pagan beginnings.
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Here's him accusing Andrew (one of the few people in here who actually
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Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:37:09 -0800,
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Also I would like to know why it is that you cannot listen to or understand
what others bring to your attention
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Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:03:27 -0800,
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they walk by their minds having no understanding of how to "walk in the
spirit".
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Tue, 29 Oct 2024 15:18:32 -0700,
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What he fails to understand is that...
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Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:24:09 -0700,
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Are you unable to understand what others say? Do you lack reading
comprehension becuase [sic] you are so bound up by an agenda?
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Mon, 28 Oct 2024 10:02:39 -0700,
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You did not go back and read the scripture and the total context which I
mentioned, OR
ought of ignorance just did not understand what Jesus was speaking in
regards to a future time.
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Sat, 26 Oct 2024 11:42:38 -0700,
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what do you even know or understand from the word of God,
about it?
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Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:18:56 -0700,
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And from what you all speak who spout this doctrine of
devils, and understand not what they mean
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Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:58:41 -0700,
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yet never once did it occur to you to understand the truth of the matter
and find out why your thinking was so misconstrued.
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Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:03:27 -0800,
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...they walk by their minds having no understanding of how to ‘walk in
the spirit’. A case in point is made here in the Book of Isaiah, and
having read these self-same scriptures they took out of it a precept
while never understanding nor realizing the full context of these words.
They exhibit what these drunkards did and hence lack knowledge and
understanding.
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Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:20:09 -0800,
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They know not the difference between a religious faith, and the Faith,...
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Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:34:58 -0800,
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Wrong. Especially since you know not the definition of days in that day and
according to God and the Jews who followed His Word.
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Tue, 08 Oct 2024 20:36:04 -0700,
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You know not the meaning of it, Is a tri-cycle three bikes in one?
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That enough, or do you want a few hundred more? Everything you feign
indignation over here, Robert has been doing to others for decades. That
isn't even the half of it.

Post by Rod E.

Post by Christ Rose
You promote rambling confusion.

I understood what he was trying to say. If you need help then ask.

"...[W]hat he was trying to say".
• This acknowledges a discrepancy between what he actually said and what
he was "trying to say".
• Experience shows that if you assume anything Robert says, he'll be the
first one to complain that you think you know what he was thinking and
how you don't have the right to judge his intent.
• He speaks in gibberish half the time, then when you try to guess what
he meant, he uses it as a tool to deny and claim you don't have the
understanding to read. He's done this to me a dozen times. He talks
gibberish, then blames you for being unable to comprehend or read.

Don't condemn him for this. Take the time and the patience to
understand what he is trying to put to voice. Michael sometimes
says things that few understand, but take the time to listen and
understand. The main idea is to help others to form what they are trying
to say. To do that you must be blessed with a very strong intuition
which only comes from God. Pray for this.

Post by Christ Rose
• But if you hazard a guess about what he means, he immediately
complains that you're wrong and are judging his intent.
So yeah, you're just operating as a biased politician here, not actually
trying to promote the truth. Go preach to Robert.

I'm preaching to you. I have already spoken with Robert in the past
and now it's your turn.
Deal with it. Be kind and considerate, not hateful and work the
problems that come before you. If your intelligence is truly
superior it will show, but if it is pride talking then you need help/
He's been doing what

Post by Christ Rose
you condemn here for decades, against sound Bible teaching.

[Robert]

Post by Rod E.
Not a problem Robert. I hope you all will see better days.

Thank you. And thankfully it is all going very well ATM, at least for us
here.

However, for the world at large it is turbulent times, everything regarding
this age coming to a close is going as prophesied. And when the enemy comes
in like a flood the Lord is raising up a standard against him. So there will
be great blessings coming for those with him while the rest their hearts will
be shaking with fear, and for good reasons. One can only hope and pray that
their eyes will be opened to what is happening and who is coming soon in the
clouds to gather up His own.

Judgement begins at the House of God, which is why there is so much shaking
out of the preachers lately as their sins are made manifest to all. Sins they
have been covering up. And the Bible speaks volumes on this and to each of us
for the state of our hearts and lives.
Sadly many fail to believe the very words they say that they read.

Wishing you well in this season, as well as for the future.

[Christ Rose]

Post by Robert
Just saw this, so I did a little research on the word, this definition is
somewhat correct, yet the word (idiotis) does not appear in Strongs
dictionary. The koine greek form he used was correct. Yet he does not take
into consideration the contextual usages of the word and its forms.
Using the logic he used to defend his verbiage he could likewise use the
terms, fuck, fucker, mother fucker, and declare his holiness and proper
language being as the use of the word Fornication in both the OT and the NT.

No I wouldn't. Your analysis and analogy is a lie. The word idiotis is
literally in the Bible, whereas those words are not. There's no
comparison. You're a dumb liar.
--
Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved.'" (Romans 10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation

[Christ Rose]

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Mon, 09 Dec 2024 11:30:11 -0800
<vj7gg2$i0u3$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:
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Post by Robert

Post by Christ Rose
• You assume he's my brother. Yet Robert promotes Tritheism, which is
the heresy that there are three God Beings, not one. This is idolatry,
and no idolator will inherit eternal life (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

I may not be his brother as he assumes he is correct in all things, not the
word of God being the absolute truth.
What he said here following that statement of his is a total lie,

You claim there are three separate Beings who are God. The Father, Son,
and Spirit. You claim they are only one in the sense of unity or
relationship, and not one in essence or Being. Thus you promote three
Gods who are united (tritheism), rather than one God in three distinct
persons (triunism). You promote heresy and idolatry. You worship three
separate God Beings rather than the one true God being.

Post by Robert
a
fabrication, and denies every scripture that he was shown such as and similar
to, “Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my
Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father,
and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” (Jhn 20:17, KJV) which is
the Word of God. Also the other scriptures in both the Old and the New
Testaments describing this, as well as the word ‘unity’, the Godhead, and
facts such as they are not seated on the same throne in heaven.

No, I admit those verses. I do not deny that Jesus, the Father, and the
Spirit are three distinct PERSONS. The Father is not the Son or the
Spirit. The Son is not the Father or Spirit. The Spirit is not the
Father or Son. But those three are only one GOD Being. Just because that
exceeds your comprehension doesn't mean it's okay to worship three
separate God BEINGS.

Post by Robert
He treats all similar scriptures as if they were the words of ‘Robert’

No, I acknowledge the Scriptures you cited. It's your explanation of
them which is heretical. You promote tritheism.

Post by Robert
and not the Words of the Heavenly Father, to which Jesus/Yeshua gave full
credit for all he said and did. Who also empowered the work of Jesus on this
earth as the Son of God.

idem.

Post by Robert
I am writing this for the benefit of any who read this now or in the future,
and it in no way contradicts my previous testimony.

You are a tritheist who promotes the worship of three God Beings, who
are only united in a relational sense. The God of the Bible is only ONE
GOD BEING and ONE divine essence, not THREE God Beings who are united
in relationship. There is one divine essence, period. One God being
period. Yet yes, there are three distinct persons. Rather than allow God
to exceed your comprehension, you manufactured Gods you could
comprehend, and so claim there are three God Beings who are just united
by relationship, rather than being the same ontological, God BEING.

You are an heretic and idolator.
--
Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved.'" (Romans 10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation

[Christ Rose]

Post by Robert

Post by Christ Rose
1 Corinthians 14:38
Greek word: ἰδιώτης (idiotis)
Verse: "If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized." (1
Corinthians 14:38, ESV)
Explanation: In this verse, Paul speaks of someone who does not
acknowledge or accept the teachings and order of the church.

He is in error in his logic as well as the transliterated forms of the word.
Also not once is the use of the word “idiot” found in the KJV

Dumber than a box of rocks. This is the same dumb argument you lose with
every time. You play dumb word games, where you pretend if some English
word isn't in the Bible, then it proves the Bible doesn't teach it. The
Greek word is idiotis. That's where we get "idiot" from. You show you
are in fact an idiot!
--
Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved.'" (Romans 10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation

[Christ Rose]

Post by Robert

Post by Christ Rose
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Fri, 06 Dec 2024 19:19:11 -0800,
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...how few know or understand what the Cross actually is.
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I have to note here for any who read this, that He did not post the Message
ID’d here so that others could review the posts so see if what he quoted
were true, in context, and not just snippets, like sound bites, used to
distort what a person said, and I also note that he post edited a few of
these as well.

The dumb liar CITES me using the message ID's, then says I didn't post
the message ID's. There's nothing left for you to say here, tool. You
prove you are in fact an IDIOT liar who plays the VICTIM while at the
same time does the very thing he claims to be the victim of. You lied. I
posted the message ID's for all to see and you look right at it and say
it never happened! DUMB LIAR!
--
Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved.'" (Romans 10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation

[Rod E.]

Post by Christ Rose
You promote rambling confusion.

Have you not understood your own admitted inability to understand
what he was trying to get said?

Did I NOT tell to ask if you needed help?

[In the Name of Jesus]

Post by Christ Rose
"few know or understand" is your life motto. It's because you're the
one who usually doesn't know or understand. You're always trying to
make someone else out to be the idiot you are.

   I see some rotten fruit above. You haven't learned to hold
   your brother up in truth and love. Calling a brother an
   idiot isn't a sign of enduring love OR patience and worst
   of all your words are exposing your ego.

Post by Christ Rose
You promote rambling confusion.

  I understood what he was trying to say. If you need help then ask.

ChristRosie is a sinner that has no sin.

They are rare. So rare in fact that even if you were to find a
gingerbread house on the moon, well, rarer than that.





In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass
through it for a sinner to play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to
speak?"

"It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
all for who He is."

"A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

"The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass
as God."

[Rod E.]

Post by In the Name of Jesus

Post by Christ Rose
"few know or understand" is your life motto. It's because you're the
one who usually doesn't know or understand. You're always trying to
make someone else out to be the idiot you are.

    I see some rotten fruit above. You haven't learned to hold
    your brother up in truth and love. Calling a brother an
    idiot isn't a sign of enduring love OR patience and worst
    of all your words are exposing your ego.

Post by Christ Rose
You promote rambling confusion.

   I understood what he was trying to say. If you need help then ask.

ChristRosie is a sinner that has no sin.
They are rare. So rare in fact that even if you were to find a
gingerbread house on the moon, well, rarer than that.

All that any of us can do is continue to follow Jesus as out example
and leave it to Him to perfect us.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
In the Name of Jesus