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@ THE NUMBER OF ANTICHRIST 666 OR 616 ? @
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O***@aol.com
2007-11-17 19:25:05 UTC
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How in the world we are talking about the two numbers if we find in
the very known King James version Bible the number is exactly 666 ?
May be you heard the number in Revelation 13.18 should be 616 . If it
is true how come God Yahweh allowed translators to put the number
666 ?

I can translate from Russian to Polish the number 666 and into English
back and forth and the number always be the same ! Who was translating
the Bible ,then, to make such a mistranslation and put 666 instead of
616 ? So how can we be sure a translation of any other verse in the
Bible is reliable ?

Not so as it might seem to be ! God Yahweh to make the understanding
the Bible very complicated allowed many strange things to happen to
blind those who don't want to accept God Yahweh .

God Yahweh intended to give us the Bible and no man whoever he is
could thwart that plan and change God's word in such a way that we
could not find the Truths of the Bible.

Calculations I will be presenting are so simple any child that can
count should understand them or one may wonder how in the world for so
many centuries nobody was able to decode the numbers of the Bible !
Only now before our eyes we see the truths of the Bible so much clear
due to the calculations and what God decided long time ago nobody
could change.Daniel 12.4 it is written there that God told Daniel to
seal the book until the very end time ! That is why we can know we
must be living on the end time if we see a sudden breaking point in
the way man understands the Bible .

And the calculations based on the Bible can be considered as the
breaking point . The new field called theomatics which is the Science
of Divine Calculation Methods - to make it different from man's
numerology - was born and no man can stop it as it is obvious by Obves
that by seeing the numbers we recognize God Yahweh must exist and He
is that gave us the Bible . And we can know the Bible is for our times
we live and we must be living in the end times.

You will not prove the Bible is for our times without calculations !
The Bible we have today was not even in existence as such compiled
book when the true ancient christianity existed.

Every translation of the Bible that has at least the same 66 books
is reliable source of the Truth !

So the Bibles that has the number 616 and the Bibles that has the
number 666 ! Whatever change was made it was made under God's
supervision and no one could change the Bible to falsify the Truths of
the Bible !

Just as the dates 119 AD and 150 AD have their connection to Psalms
119 and 150 the Book of Revelation 13.18 hides the truths in the
numbers 13 and 18 !

The final phase of the ancient true christianity was in the period 119
AD - 150 AD afetr which true ancient christianity ceased to exist .

We have something new amazingly true in Revelation 13.18 who has the
numbers 13 and 18 .
616 = 6+1+6 = 13 ! And 666 = 6+6+6 =18 !

Oh man it is so simple how in the world mankind could missed that !

666 and 616 have the same meaning in this setting ! It makes no
difference if you put 666 or 616 into Revelation 13.18 .

The numbers 13 (616) and 18 (666) are in the same place and place now
can be trnasformed into the same meaning .

Do you remember God's Name Yahweh with values 11,6,7,6 ?

11x 6 = 66 books of the Bible and 7x6=42 that stands for "7 Times"

In the Hebrew we read from right to left and 66 stays the same but 42
looks like 24 . 42+24 = 66 !

So , we have 66 and 66 . Also 42 can be like 4+2 = 6

So, we have also 66 + 6 = 666 or 6+6+6 = 18

6666=666 1879 AD + 66 + 66 = 2011 AD

We must look for the enemy of God and Christ in the period 1879 AD -
2011 AD and under the cover of God's name and Jewish - Christian
religions ! That means we look for the religions who have preachers
who claim to be God's servants but are not , as they are in false
christian religions.

6x6x6x6= 1296 ( 1+2+9+6 =18 ! ) 1296 = 36 + 1260

1878 AD + 36 years = 1914 AD + " 1260 days "

1878 AD + 42 years = 1920 AD and that is the best date to locate the
spirit of the antichrist

1920 AD is an equivalent of the date 81 BC. 1920 =1+9+2+0=18 = 81 is
a reversal of 18 .

The Roman Empire is a clue to decode where the spirit of the
antichrist was and is present.

1878 AD (1+8+7+8=24 as a reversal of 42 ) we have the pope Leo
( Lion ) XIII chosen (6+1+6=13) and then in 1914 AD we have the pope
Benedict XV chosen and we have 7 popes to 2005 AD.And now is the 8th
pope and called Benedict XVI . 1914 AD -2011 AD ( "15 " + " 16 " = 31
which is a reversed number of 13 or 616 ! .

Using the number 13 we can cover the whole period 1878 AD - 2011 AD
with the number of the antichrist 616 or 666.

The popes and the clergy ,pastors,theologians who teach others
contrary to the truth that is preached by the real true christian
servants in the period 1878 AD - 2011 AD have the spirit of the
antichrist.

If we look at the map , the shape of Italy resembles a lamb with two
horns in the north. Over the there we search for the throne of the
second beast in our end times.A New Roman Empire !

Now we have a very good picture to recognize who is the anitichrist
and thanks to the calculations and the dates that are their result we
can know so much today where is the Truth and where we are and we
should expect the second coming of the Messiah very soon.
duke
2007-11-17 19:41:12 UTC
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Post by O***@aol.com
How in the world we are talking about the two numbers if we find in
the very known King James version Bible the number is exactly 666 ?
Who cares? Follow Christ and the problem takes care of itself.

duke, American-American
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bob young
2007-11-18 01:51:05 UTC
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How in the world we are talking about the two numbers if we find in
the very known King James version Bible the number is exactly 666 ?
Who cares? Follow Christ and the problem takes care of itself.
Who cares, the number is/was made up by fearful humans, just like they make up all
of their gods

One day THAT will take care of itself
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z***@gmail.com
2007-11-18 13:18:39 UTC
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How in the world we are talking about the two numbers if we find in
the very known King James version Bible the number is exactly 666 ?
Who cares? Follow Christ and the problem takes care of itself.
Who cares, the number is/was made up by fearful humans, just like they make up all
of their gods
One day THAT will take care of itself
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duke, American-American
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You have read it correctly. The number is indeed 616. All the
original translations say it is 616. Later translations changed it and
made it 666. You can only work out the real number if you have
understanding. There is more to it than it appears. That is why it
when it says the number, it then says "if you have understanding" you
will work out the real number. Very few people have understanding.
Which is why people with no understanding think it is 666. There are
enough hints in Revelation for you to work out the real number.
duke
2007-11-18 13:19:26 UTC
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How in the world we are talking about the two numbers if we find in
the very known King James version Bible the number is exactly 666 ?
Who cares? Follow Christ and the problem takes care of itself.
Who cares, the number is/was made up by fearful humans, just like they make up all
of their gods
One day THAT will take care of itself
And we learned from the early Christians. Follow Christ and the problem takes
care of itself.


duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
2007-11-18 19:29:08 UTC
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How in the world we are talking about the two numbers if we find in
the very known King James version Bible the number is exactly 666 ?
Who cares? Follow Christ and the problem takes care of itself.
Who cares, the number is/was made up by fearful humans, just like they make up all
of their gods
One day THAT will take care of itself
And we learned from the early Christians. Follow Christ and the problem takes
care of itself.
more duke drivel, duke, can't you ever post OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE
OF YOUR BULLSHIT GOD?

why is your god scared of me?
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duke, brainwashed christian moron
duke
2007-11-18 21:16:34 UTC
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:29:08 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
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Post by O***@aol.com
How in the world we are talking about the two numbers if we find in
the very known King James version Bible the number is exactly 666 ?
Who cares? Follow Christ and the problem takes care of itself.
Who cares, the number is/was made up by fearful humans, just like they make up all
of their gods
One day THAT will take care of itself
And we learned from the early Christians. Follow Christ and the problem takes
care of itself.
more duke drivel, duke, can't you ever post OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE
OF YOUR BULLSHIT GOD?
why is your god scared of me?
God awaits the goblin's arrival at the judgment day.

duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
2007-11-18 23:48:56 UTC
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:29:08 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
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How in the world we are talking about the two numbers if we find in
the very known King James version Bible the number is exactly 666 ?
Who cares? Follow Christ and the problem takes care of itself.
Who cares, the number is/was made up by fearful humans, just like they make up all
of their gods
One day THAT will take care of itself
And we learned from the early Christians. Follow Christ and the problem takes
care of itself.
more duke drivel, duke, can't you ever post OBJECTABLE, VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE
OF YOUR BULLSHIT GOD?
why is your god scared of me?
God awaits the goblin's arrival at the judgment day.
so, he's too scared to come to me, huh?
why again is your god SCARED of me?

why is your god a CHICKEN-SHIT COWARD?
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duke, brainwashed christian retard
duke
2007-11-19 12:42:48 UTC
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:48:56 -0500, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
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why is your god scared of me?
God awaits the goblin's arrival at the judgment day.
so, he's too scared to come to me, huh?
why again is your god SCARED of me?
He's reaching out his hand to you right now, goblin. You're rejecting it.

duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
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Libertarius
2007-11-18 19:00:39 UTC
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That is the number of "the beast", and NOT
the "antichrist".
The "antichrist" is just a SPIRIT
(like the "Holy" one),
but that spirit denies that Jesus came
"in the flesh". That is the dfinition
of the "antichrist".
Confused Christians mix it up with the
"beast" of Revelation", which is ROME
and its emperor NERO(N) (616 or 666). -- L.
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rjbjr
2007-11-20 22:24:18 UTC
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How in the world we are talking about the two numbers if we find in
the very known King James version Bible the number is exactly 666 ?
Who cares? Follow Christ and the problem takes care of itself.
Who cares, the number is/was made up by fearful humans, just like they make up all
of their gods
One day THAT will take care of itself
To those on this thread who believe the wisdom of the Bible.
I'm not interested in the comments of the name-callers.

Here's my question. Why does the Bible give us a hint about the number of
the Beast?

Did Jesus want us to be able to identify the Beast before it's too late? If
the number were there just to identify the beast after he has gained
control, it wouldn't take too much "wisdom" to do that.

Could it be that Jesus wants someone with insight to identify the beast
early so we could stop the Beast before he gets to a position of power?

Suppose you were the one with "wisdom" and identified someone rising in
power whose name adds to 666. What would you do? Would you announce it?
Remember, if we stop the beast, then we are also delaying the time for
Jesus' return.

SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
2007-11-18 19:27:27 UTC
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How in the world we are talking about the two numbers if we find in
the very known King James version Bible the number is exactly 666 ?
Who cares? Follow Christ and the problem takes care of itself.
you mean like how your HORSESHIT god sat on his FAT, LAZY ASS, and LAUGHED
HIS SICK, SADISTIC ASS OFF WHILE 9/11 HAPPENED?

death to your BULLSHIT SKY PIXIE
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duke, brainwashed christian retard
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