ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG
None of you have any idea what you are talking about.
This is a group about bible prophecy, so none of you
even belong at it and keep littering it with off-topic crap.
That is a major sign of the fact that all of you are wrong
and have no idea what you are talking about.
People with good character who post on-topic at the group(s)
they belong at are most likely going to be right. This does
not have to mean all of their posts, but at least the vast
majority of them, and that fits my activity at this group.
Not a one of you can find me doing a bunch of
off-topic posting on Usenet like all of you do.
THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HOLY BIBLE / REALITY
There are two types of Spirit-Souls / Human Beings:
starting with Righteous Abel and Wicked Cain
and on down the line to today.
The Holy Bible is full of verses talking about
the Righteous and the Wicked, who have been on
Earth since the most notable contrast between
Cain and Abel:
1 John 3
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore
slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
And Abraham drew near, and said, "Wilt thou also destroy
the righteous with the wicked?"
Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked,
between him that serveth God and him that serveth God not.
Regarding the latter, obviously PatB does not have discernment,
and that means HE is a wicked sinner because it is the wicked sinners
who do not have discernment (Hebrews 5:14) (1 Corinthians 2:15).
The terminology is also Spiritual versus Carnal, for example:
1 Corinthians 3
And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual,
but as unto carnal.
And, goodness gracious, doesn't PatB and others like him know
as well that there are many other distinctions made between
the two, like for example:
Good vs Evil
Just vs Unjust
Saint vs Devil
Sheep vs Goat
Wheat vs Tare
Godly vs Ungodly
Children of God vs Children of Satan
Children of Light vs Children of Darkness
LOOK AT THIS PSALM:
For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous:
but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
LOOK AT THIS PROVERB:
An unjust man is an abomination to the just:
and he that is upright in the way is an abomination to the wicked.
LOOK AT THIS VERSE IN PETER'S LETTER:
1 Peter 4
And if the righteous (righteous servants) scarcely be saved,
how shall the wicked and the sinner (wicked sinners) stand judgment?
LOOK AT PAUL'S WORDS HERE:
1 Timothy 1
Know this, that the law is not made for the righteous,
but for the wicked and rebellious, for the ungodly and for sinners,
for the profane and unholy.
LOOK AT JUDE'S WORDS ABOUT UNGODLY SINNERS (WICKED SINNERS):
And Enoch also...prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord comes with
ten thousands of his saints to execute judgment...and for all the
harsh words which the ungodly sinners have spoken.
LOOK AT JESUS' WORDS:
For God maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good,
and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
SO HOW CAN SOMEONE IGNORE OR MISS ALL OF THIS?
BECAUSE THEY ARE CAUGHT UP IN SATAN'S LIE
THAT ALL HUMAN BEINGS ARE SUPPOSEDLY SINNERS,
AND THEY TWIST AND MISINTERPRET ROMANS 3
TO TRY TO BUTTRESS THIS LIE OF SATAN.
ROMANS 3:9-18 IS PAUL QUOTING EXTENSIVELY FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT
AND APPLIES IT TO A SPECIFIC BODY OF PEOPLE: THE ARABS AND THE JEWS -
I.E. THE DESCENDANTS OF ISHMAEL AND ISAAC AS A GENERAL STATEMENT
ABOUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM:
We have already decided concerning
both Jews and Arameans,
for they are all under sin.
As it is written,
There is none righteous, no, not one;
There is none who understands,
there is none who seeks after God.
They are all gone astray and
they have been rejected;
there is none who does good, no, not one.
Their throats are like open sepulchres;
their tongues are deceitful;
the venom of asps is under their lips.
Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.
They are overquick to shed blood.
Destruction and misery are in their ways.
They have not known the path of peace.
There is no fear of God before their eyes.
ROMANS 3:23 IS PAUL TALKING ABOUT EVERY HUMAN BEING,
BUT IT IS PAST TENSE AND EXPLAINS THAT SINCE THE
CRUCIFIXION OF CHRIST THOSE WICKED SINNERS
WHO HAVE CONFESSED / REPENTED / CONVERTED ARE
NOW CONSIDERED TO BE RIGHTEOUS SERVANTS
For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God,
(but) they are freely given righteousness by the grace of God
through the salvation which is in Jesus Christ,
whom God has foreordained to be a propitiation through
faith in his blood for the remission of our sins that are past
by the opportunity which God has given us through his forbearance,
for the manifestation of his righteousness at the present time,
that he might be declared righteous, and for the justification of
righteousness to him who is in the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ.
**AND** IT DOES NOT SAY EVERY HUMAN BEING IS A SINNER
BUT THAT EVERY HUMAN BEING HAS SINNED
**AND** SINCE THERE IS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE WICKED
AND THE RIGHTEOUS FOUND ALL THROUGHOUT SCRIPTURE BUT
IT IS A FACT THAT ALL HUMAN BEINGS HAVE COMMIT
AT LEAST ONE SIN DURING THE COURSE OF THEIR LIFE,
THEN OBVIOUSLY BEING RIGHTEOUS DOES NOT MEAN
NOT EVER COMMITTING ANY SIN AT ALL AND IT DOES MEAN
AS I HAVE ALREADY POSTED AT THIS GROUP NUMEROUS TIMES
BEARING MORE GOOD FRUIT THAN BAD FRUIT IN WORD AND DEED
OR SAME DIFFERENCE IT IS THE BALANCE THAT COUNTS OR
SAME DIFFERENCE TO BE SERVING AND PLEASING GOD MORE SO
THAN SERVING AND PLEASING SATAN,
AND HAVE ALSO POINTED OUT THAT THIS IS WHY JESUS SAID
YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS MUST **EXCEED** THE PHARISEES IN ORDER
TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD BECAUSE THE PHARISEES WERE
SERVING AND PLEASING SATAN MORE SO
THAN SERVING AND PLEASING GOD,
AND FURTHER THAT THIS IS WHY JOHN SAID:
1 JOHN 3
My children, let no man deceive you:
He who does righteousness is righteous,
just as Christ is righteous.
He who commits sin is of the devil,
because the devil has been a
sinner from the beginning...
In this the children of God
can be distinguished from
the children of Satan:
Whoever does not practice
does not belong to God.
And as Jesus simply put it,
"You can tell a tree by its fruit."