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What a shithole this group has turned into.
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John St.Boniface
2019-10-06 00:28:26 UTC
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What a shame.
Michael Christ
2019-10-06 01:47:09 UTC
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Post by John St.Boniface
What a shame.
Well you can thank 3 shitheads of religion.

1) John 'thinks he can save himself with his stinking self-righteous
religion' 'thickhead' Abrams.

2) Nutcase stubborn know it all Debra Dumb Freeman.

3) And of course the 'Wonderfully Hungry is Lord' maniac manic must have
his way (inherent in them all) Andrew B Chung.

Their reward is they all have each other!! :-).







Michael Christ
John St.Boniface
2019-10-07 00:29:27 UTC
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They have each other ALL DAY, and in the case of Chung, all day and night, week after week,
Month after month, year after year. The same shit over and over and over.
There is nothing Christian about this behavior.
It’s all about ego and “winning”.
It’s the opposite of Christianity.
Madhu
2019-10-07 04:58:10 UTC
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Speaking as someone who is continuing under the curse and being
tormented more and more, I don't believe it is the name of Jesus Christ
by which I am being condemned and I certainly hope the condemnation will
cease and that I am not eternally condemned.
Michael Christ
2019-10-07 06:13:01 UTC
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Post by Madhu
Speaking as someone who is continuing under the curse and being
tormented more and more, I don't believe it is the name of Jesus Christ
by which I am being condemned and I certainly hope the condemnation will
cease and that I am not eternally condemned.
So have you come to realise that all the bible knowledge in the world is
not the answer??







Michael Christ
John St.Boniface
2019-10-07 07:34:44 UTC
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We are all condemned to live in this asshole world as assholes. This world is a thousand
years from real Christianity. Only a handful of people even understand what it is.
The President of the most powerful country in the world, the US, is a total asshole,
I.e. 100% ego. We are headed rapidly toward the end of this asshole world. Large
percentages of the people are sick or insane. The food, water, air and land is poisoned
with toxic industrial chemicals, the food is poisoned with toxic additives. The schools are
poisoning the children. The so-called religions are all a steaming pile of bullshit.
There is no escape.
Michael Christ
2019-10-07 07:53:30 UTC
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Post by John St.Boniface
We are all condemned to live in this asshole world as assholes.
True.
Post by John St.Boniface
This world is a thousand
years from real Christianity.
True.
Post by John St.Boniface
Only a handful of people even understand what it is.
True.
Post by John St.Boniface
The President of the most powerful country in the world, the US, is a total asshole,
I.e. 100% ego. We are headed rapidly toward the end of this asshole world. Large
percentages of the people are sick or insane. The food, water, air and land is poisoned
with toxic industrial chemicals, the food is poisoned with toxic additives. The schools are
poisoning the children. The so-called religions are all a steaming pile of bullshit.
True.
Post by John St.Boniface
There is no escape.
Depending on your context. Yes and no.

The Lord Jesus Christ, not religion, of course, but the Lord Jesus
Christ is the Saviour, everyone's ONLY hope.







Michael Christ
John St.Boniface
2019-10-07 12:10:28 UTC
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My dear Mr. Christ,
I don’t think the real Jesus would want you to call him “Lord” Jesus.
The fact that you do it demonstrates that you have no idea of what Christianity is.
Michael Christ
2019-10-07 21:42:27 UTC
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Post by John St.Boniface
My dear Mr. Christ,
I don’t think the real Jesus would want you to call him “Lord” Jesus.
The fact that you do it demonstrates that you have no idea of what Christianity is.
Well, He is Lord.

So it may be your place to move.






Michael Christ
Debra Dee McQueen Freeman
2019-10-08 00:55:12 UTC
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LORD MEANS MISTER



Here is one uneducated ignoramus,
arguing with another uneducated ignoramus.


In The Holy Bible, the word 'lord' means 'mister'
and was an addressment of respect to a male,

exactly as today we show respect by calling a man
Mister Tom or Mister Jones rather than to just say
Tom or Jones or Tom Jones.


The word 'lord' is found nearly 7,000 times in The Holy Bible,
in reference to either Mister GOD, or Mister Jesus, or some other male:

lord
https://www.biblestudytools.com/search/?q=lord&t=kjv&s=Bibles



Here is an example, wherein the Egyptians call Joseph lord:

Genesis 47
All the Egyptians came to Joseph and said to him...
"We will not hide it from our lord, for the money is spent;
and our lord also has all the herds and cattle;
there is nothing left in the sight of our lord
but our persons and our lands. Why should we die
before your eyes, both we and our lands?
Buy us and our lands for bread, and we and
our lands will be servants to Pharaoh;
and give us seed, that we may live,
and not die and that the land be not desolate."


AND, in regards to GOD and Jesus, the word 'the'
is the word of import or emphasis,

as in

THE Lord God, meaning the one and only

and as in

THE Son of God, meaning the prophesied Prophet / Messiah / King
THE King of Israel, ditto
THE prophet, ditto
THE Messiah, ditto


THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ONE
DOES NOT FOLLOW MESSIAH JESUS
WHO LOVED GOD'S WORD AND
LIVED BY IT AND
QUOTED IT AND
TAUGHT IT AND
KNEW IT.


PRAISE THE LORD GOD
NOT ALL ARE REBELLIOUS
AND CORRUPT AND
GOD AND JESUS
STILL HAVE ME !!!!


AMEN !!!!
John St.Boniface
2019-10-08 05:50:55 UTC
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A “Lord” is a person in Authority who “rules” over people, and their land.
Jesus is a teacher of a way of life that heals all sickness and unhappiness
by living in harmony with God’s Law, a way, or path, that leads to oneness,
i.e. enlightenment, i.e. “entering the kingdom of heaven”, which is the brass
ring of human life.
Michael Christ
2019-10-08 07:42:17 UTC
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Post by John St.Boniface
A “Lord” is a person in Authority who “rules” over people, and their land.
Jesus is a teacher of a way of life that heals all sickness and unhappiness
by living in harmony with God’s Law, a way, or path, that leads to oneness,
i.e. enlightenment, i.e. “entering the kingdom of heaven”, which is the brass
ring of human life.
Jesus is Lord, you need to learn what that means. Your future depends
on it.





Michael Christ
John St.Boniface
2019-10-08 15:21:36 UTC
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You have no clue about who Jesus is, or what he was teaching.
ALL spirituality is about the same thing.
The experience that is the brass-ring of life.
Jesus called it “entering the kingdom of heaven”.
He was teaching the real truth. The Roman Empire felt their power threatened,
so they killed him. They buried the truth he was teaching, and substituted a phony
“Jesus “worshipping” “religion”, which you promote here daily.
Debra Dee McQueen Freeman
2019-10-08 17:40:30 UTC
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LORD STILL MEANS MISTER


"A “Lord” is a person in Authority who “rules” over people, and their land."

LOL !!

The Holy Bible is not England !!

In The Holy Bible, there are various times
and under various circumstances
when a male is addressed as 'lord'
in order to show respect to that male
and maybe even try to ingratiate oneself to that male
whether that male had authority or not
and whether that male had land or not,

just like today when a boy or a man is addressed as 'Mister'
for the exact same reasons and which word 'Mister' is
therefore the English equivalent to the Hebrew or Aramaic
word that was translated as 'lord'.

And in the example that I gave about Joseph -
wherein he was addressed as 'lord' several times -
at that time he did not own any land !!

AGAIN, BOTTOM LINE:

THE LORD GOD,
THE LORD JESUS,
THE CHRIST,

ARE SPECIAL ADDRESSMENTS BECAUSE OF THE WORD "THE"
NOT BECAUSE OF THE WORD "LORD" OR "CHRIST"

ANY MALE CAN BE "LORD".
ANY PERSON CAN BE "A HELPER / SAVER / SAVIOR / MESSIAH / CHRIST".

BUT ONLY ONE GOD IS THE LORD GOD,
AND ONLY ONE SPIRIT-SOUL IS THE CHRIST.
AND ONLY ONE HUMAN WAS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
John St.Boniface
2019-10-08 17:53:20 UTC
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There is NO “Lord” God.
God is NOT a person.
p***@gmail.com
2019-10-08 18:50:20 UTC
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There is NO “Lord” God.
God is NOT a person.
God is NOT a person.
---
gods are created in the imaginations of man and believed by fools.
John St.Boniface
2019-10-08 22:06:41 UTC
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One of them is real, though. It’s the one “see” when you experience enlightenment.
p***@gmail.com
2019-10-08 22:09:21 UTC
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One of them is real, though. It’s the one “see” when you experience enlightenment.
One of them is real, though.
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delusion noted and laughed at.

there are two fools more every second.
Michael Christ
2019-10-08 20:53:44 UTC
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There is NO “Lord” God.
God is NOT a person.
Yes, He is. And that shows you don't know Him. Him. Him.

Him.

He is a Person and a very very Personal God.

What?? Where do you think 'personal' comes from? Your arse??!!








Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2019-10-08 20:18:46 UTC
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Post by John St.Boniface
You have no clue about who Jesus is, or what he was teaching.
ALL spirituality is about the same thing.
The experience that is the brass-ring of life.
I think you have a finger up your ring.
Post by John St.Boniface
Jesus called it “entering the kingdom of heaven”.
He was teaching the real truth. The Roman Empire felt their power threatened,
so they killed him. They buried the truth he was teaching, and substituted a phony
“Jesus “worshipping” “religion”, which you promote here daily.
You are welcome to validate your accusations.

I think you have to go beyond the usual 'I say so' though.







Michael Christ
John St.Boniface
2019-10-08 22:04:14 UTC
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“I think you have to go beyond the usual 'I say so' though.”

I’ll agree to that if you do likewise.
Michael Christ
2019-10-08 22:50:38 UTC
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“I think you have to go beyond the usual 'I say so' though.”
I’ll agree to that if you do likewise.
Okay.

Well, you said, 'You have no clue about who Jesus is, or what he was
teaching'.

Since you made the claim, you better start.







Michael Christ
John St.Boniface
2019-10-09 11:30:39 UTC
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In order to “enter the kingdom”, to see with your own eyes that you are always in the presence of “God”,
to have THE religious experience that ALL religion is about, you have to LOSE EVERYTHING.

You have too much to lose for that to ever happen.
After all, in your fantasy world, you’re a pretty important guy to “people” like Jesus, and “God”.
Michael Christ
2019-10-09 21:34:18 UTC
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Stop snipping the guts out of the conversation. After all, what have
you got to hide?? You are the truth, right?
Post by Michael Christ
You are welcome to validate your accusations.
I think you have to go beyond the usual 'I say so' though.
I’ll agree to that if you do likewise.
Okay.
Well, you said, 'You have no clue about who Jesus is, or what he was
teaching'.
Since you made the claim, you better start.
In order to “enter the kingdom”, to see with your own eyes that you are always in
the presence of “God”,
We are always in the presence of God because He is God and He is
everywhere and in everything, but that does not mean one has entered
into His Kingdom (the kingdom, in your terms). We have a choice to be
with Him or not.

Most choose not to and for precisely the reason you state below. It
costs you everything.
Post by Michael Christ
to have THE religious experience that ALL religion is about,
you have to LOSE EVERYTHING.
I know.
Post by Michael Christ
You have too much to lose for that to ever happen.
You say so...so it is true??
Post by Michael Christ
After all, in your fantasy world, you’re a pretty important guy to “people” like
Jesus, and “God”.
You say so....so it is true??

I thought you agreed to go beyond the 'I say so'. If your word is not
your word what is your word worth and what is your kingdom worth??





Michael Christ
John St.Boniface
2019-10-10 16:55:28 UTC
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In order to “enter the kingdom”, to see with your own eyes that you are always in
the presence of “God”,
We are always in the presence of God because He is God and He is
everywhere and in everything, but that does not mean one has entered
into His Kingdom (the kingdom, in your terms). We have a choice to be
with Him or not.

You have NO Choice. If you are alive, you are supported by “God”.
But “God” is not a person. “God” is the source, the creator,
the infinite vacuum that is the origin of all things.
If “God” pulls the plug on you, you die.


MC>> Most choose not to and for precisely the reason you state below. It
costs you everything.

Nonsense.
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to have THE religious experience that ALL religion is about,
you have to LOSE EVERYTHING.
I know.
John St.Boniface
2019-10-10 18:22:20 UTC
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There is NO “supreme judge” in “heaven” who is keeping tabs on you,
and deciding where you will go after you die.
Dead is dead, finito.
Michael Christ
2019-10-10 19:57:45 UTC
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There is NO “supreme judge” in “heaven” who is keeping tabs on you,
and deciding where you will go after you die.
Dead is dead, finito.
Who says so?





Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2019-10-10 19:57:58 UTC
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Okay, we'll play snips and tucks then.

Where did your personality come from??

Did you decide to reply to this post or did God?

What is love??







Michael Christ
Madhu
2019-10-11 02:06:22 UTC
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Okay, we'll play snips and tucks then.
Where did your personality come from??
wb GSI
Post by Michael Christ
Did you decide to reply to this post or did God?
What is love??
To parody scripture from John from Pilate's "what is truth"

To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I
should bear witness unto the TRUTH. every one that is of the TRUTH
heareth my voice.

To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I
should bear witness unto the LOVE. Every one that is of the love
heareth my voice.

note: "THE love" vs. "love"
Michael Christ
2019-10-11 03:03:46 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Okay, we'll play snips and tucks then.
Where did your personality come from??
wb GSI
Post by Michael Christ
Did you decide to reply to this post or did God?
What is love??
To parody scripture from John from Pilate's "what is truth"
To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I
should bear witness unto the TRUTH. every one that is of the TRUTH
heareth my voice.
To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I
should bear witness unto the LOVE. Every one that is of the love
heareth my voice.
note: "THE love" vs. "love"
Do you love God with all your heart, soul and mind, Madhu?






Michael Christ
m***@gmail.com
2019-10-12 17:53:57 UTC
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Okay, we'll play snips and tucks then.
Where did your personality come from??
Did you decide to reply to this post or did God?
What is love??
Michael Christ
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What is love??


* I would be shocked if you knew the answer.
Debra Dee McQueen Freeman
2019-10-12 19:02:32 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Okay, we'll play snips and tucks then.
Where did your personality come from??
Did you decide to reply to this post or did God?
What is love??
Michael Christ
RE
What is love??
* I would be shocked if you knew the answer.
Living
Outside
Violence &
Ego
Debra Dee McQueen Freeman
2019-10-12 20:16:50 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Okay, we'll play snips and tucks then.
Where did your personality come from??
Did you decide to reply to this post or did God?
What is love??
Michael Christ
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What is love??
* I would be shocked if you knew the answer.
Living
Outside
Violence &
Ego
That excludes John Alexander Abrams who told Ike that he was
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I`ll cut off your nut sack and make you eat it.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.bible.prophecy/Bc5zGsvv-TQ/KJVkb2ic374J
St.John Smythe
2019-10-12 20:22:44 UTC
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” I`ll cut off your nut sack and make you eat it. “
Impossible!
Ike didn’t have a nutsack.
St.John Smythe
2019-10-13 12:11:29 UTC
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Christianity died when Jesus was murdered by the Romans.
What followed was series of made-up “religions” used to manipulate,
control and exploit the masses. None of them are real Christianity.
In America, Christianity is now a political tool used by a wealthy elite
to make America a global police state that rules the world.
St.John Smythe
2019-10-13 15:53:30 UTC
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The Christian religion has been turned into its opposite.
A spiritual way of life and path to enlightenment (entering the kingdom of heaven)
has been turned into a “religion” of hate, exclusion, racism, and white supremacy.
I.E. the path to non-ego has become the “religion” of egotism.
m***@gmail.com
2019-10-15 16:58:13 UTC
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Okay, we'll play snips and tucks then.
Where did your personality come from??
Did you decide to reply to this post or did God?
What is love??
Michael Christ
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What is love??
* I would be shocked if you knew the answer.
Living
Outside
Violence &
Ego
That excludes John Alexander Abrams who told Ike that he was
Post by Debra Dee McQueen Freeman
I`ll cut off your nut sack and make you eat it.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.bible.prophecy/Bc5zGsvv-TQ/KJVkb2ic374J
* A psychoanalyst student of mine named Monica told me that DDF was abused/mistreated as a child and that her mental deformities formed at an early age. I also have a student that is a brain surgeon named Daniel but I doubt that he could help her - `if she only had a brain`.

But my students Thiago and Alex, a gerontologist and a researcher in cognitive decline respectively, could very well provide her some relief from at least some of what ails her (them).
John St.Boniface
2019-10-11 03:11:11 UTC
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When I, or the Bible, or any metaphysical discussion says you must “lose everything”,
what is meant is you must lose ego. You must have an experience of non-ego.
When this happens, you will “enter the kingdom”. You will look around at your familiar
surroundings, and know beyond doubt that everything is one, that the u inverse/God
is infinite beyond comprehension.
Michael Christ
2019-10-11 03:31:09 UTC
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When I, or the Bible, or any metaphysical discussion says you must “lose everything”,
what is meant is you must lose ego. You must have an experience of non-ego.
When this happens, you will “enter the kingdom”. You will look around at your familiar
surroundings, and know beyond doubt that everything is one, that the u inverse/God
is infinite beyond comprehension.
And yet here you are trying to define the comprehension of God.

If this is GSI then I am wasting my time because he is nothing if
anything but one ball of ego.

God is a Person, He is love and all you see was created out of love.
Hugging a thing universe will only disappoint you.




Michael Christ
John St.Boniface
2019-10-11 06:02:32 UTC
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I speak the TRUTH. You don’t want to hear it.
You want to remain in your extreme fundamentalist, Sunday-school fantasyland,
where YOU are “special”, favored by Your fantasy “personal” “God”.
Michael Christ
2019-10-11 06:53:49 UTC
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I speak the TRUTH. You don’t want to hear it.
You want to remain in your extreme fundamentalist, Sunday-school fantasyland,
where YOU are “special”, favored by Your fantasy “personal” “God”.
Your accusations expose the thoughts of your own heart. It always does
in those of your ilk.

The God who released His love is a 'thing', an 'it'???!!! Yeah right,
you silly ignorant fellow.





Michael Christ
John St.Boniface
2019-10-11 17:34:07 UTC
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It’s a NO-Thing, God is one of the words used for the infinite world, also Allah, the Great Spirit,
Amaterasu-no-mikami, the Tao, etc.
m***@gmail.com
2019-10-08 03:17:41 UTC
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What a shame.
* None of you would know Jesus if he walked up to you and introduced himself.
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